On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 11:01:32AM -0700, Phil Dibowitz wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 09:34:04AM -0700, Matthew Dharm wrote:
> > Lots of work?  Tragic.  But that's what you get when you're the
> > unusual_devs.h guy.  Handle it as you see best, but the goal is to make
> > unusual_devs.h as small as possible.
> 
> Woah there buddy! I'm okay with the work... I don't recall saying "oh,
> that's gonna take too much work" - I was just discussing the
> logistics.

Sorry.  I'm just a little behind in life.  This past weekend was my first
break in 26 consecutive days of work.  I guess I'm getting a little bit
punchy.

> I like Alan's idea of minimizing the delay and having a flag for
> things that need more than that delay -- 5 seconds is still quite a
> bit to add to boot time... since people are working on shaving off 2
> or 3 seconds all the time.

I'm hesitant to "minimize" this much.

I want a value that will help many of the FIX_INQUIRY devices we have.  I
want to cut down on people having to add entries to unusual_devs.h in the
general case.  I want to improve the experience of most people (i.e. "my
device Just Works(tm) out of the box with Linux").

Given that this 5 seconds runs concurrently with other things, I don't see
it as being a big delay at boot.

Also, given that people who really want to squeeze for the last few seconds
out of boot can easily make the less-than-one-line change to alter the
default delay (or just change it via sysfs from their initrd before they
load the HCD), I don't see a compelling reason to lower it.

I see the idea here to improve life greatly for many people at a small cost
to few people (those who care about those few seconds).  Since those few
people can perfectly easily squeeze those seconds out at either
compile-time or runtime, there just isn't a downside that I really see.

Matt

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