On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:02:12 -0800
Nishanth Aravamudan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The following patchset (affecting USB, Bluetooth, IrDA, Sound, DVB and W1 --
> hence the long To: an Cc: lists...) converts the usb_control_msg() and
> usb_bulk_msg() functions to use milliseconds in the timeout parameter instead
> of jiffies. This is not a problem for almost all cases, as the requested 
> delays are usually quite long wrt. these two functions.

As for w1 - this changes do not break anything, but
I'm not sure that it will not break usb core code which can
depend on jiffies and thus arch specific timings.

So I have a question: is this change intentional and thus by design requires
milliseconds, or it just happens that HZ==1000 on the most of the platforms?
 
> I see several reasons for committing these changes:
> 
> 1) Expressing time in milliseconds makes the code cleaner and easier to
> understand. It also makes the delay independent (from a code perspective) of
> HZ's value, which would be important for dynamic-HZ or tickless systems.
> 
> 2) Also for dynamic-HZ/tickless systems, it becomes unclear what exactly HZ
> represents. Milliseconds have meaning in the human world beyond the kernel. 
> This
> ties in pretty strongly with 1)'s point about understanding.
> 
> 3) As the time/timer subsystem evolves and changes, the overall message I am
> seeing is that jiffies are not a proper expression of time. Thus, I am hoping
> these patches minimize this particular interface's usage of jiffies in this
> way; while, in the end, the call to usb_start_wait_for_urb ends up with the
> same jiffies-based time, if the timer subsystem were to, for instance, convert
> to nanoseconds, we could instead pass on the parameter multiplied by a 
> million.
> It simply makes adjusting to any new time system that much easier.
> 
> Exceptions do exist, of course, and the following files do not use a
> HZ-relative timeout variable; thus I was unsure how exactly to proceed.
> Given that HZ==1000 in i386, the constants used technically correspond
> directly to milliseconds. I am unsure if that is the intent of the author
> in all cases, though. I left the hard-coded non-HZ related values alone in all
> cases.
> 
> drivers/isdn/hisax/hfc_usb.c
> drivers/usb/media/dabusb.c
> drivers/usb/media/dsbr100.c
> drivers/usb/media/stv680.c
> drivers/usb/media/w9968cf.c
> drivers/usb/misc/emi26.c
> drivers/usb/misc/emi62.c
> drivers/usb/serial/cypress_m8.c
> drivers/usb/serial/ftdi_sio.c
> drivers/usb/serial/io_edgeport.c
> drivers/usb/serial/kobil_sct.c
> drivers/usb/serial/pl2303.c
> drivers/media/dvb/dibusb/dvb-dibusb-usb.c
> drivers/usb/media/dabusb.c
> drivers/w1/dscore.c
> 
> As always, any comments or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> 
> -Nish


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