On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:

> > > It just shouldn't be necessary.  Actually I think the resume device 
> > > shouldn't
> > > be frozen too.
> >
> > Well, you wouldn't want it doing DMA to unknown memory areas while you're
> > trying to place the image data in those same areas, would you?  And when
> > the image is reactivated, you wouldn't want the device generating
> > interrupt requests while its driver still thinks it is suspended.  (Or if 
> > it doesn't even have a driver in the image.)
> 
> I think it'll always have a driver in the image, because we use it on suspend
> to save the image.

True.

>  Also IMHO, theoretically, the driver need not think the
> device is suspended.

It does have to think the device is frozen, however.  The device _has_ to 
be frozen while the memory image is created, for the same reasons as 
mentioned before: it mustn't do DMA or generate IRQs.

> I think at least some devices may be told not to do DMA and/or generate IRQs
> without being reset or put into a low(er) power state.

That is in fact the very definition of FREEZE.  From 
Documentation/power/devices.txt:

        FREEZE -- stop DMA and interrupts, and be prepared to reinit HW from
        scratch.

Agreed, general devices do not need to be reset or put into a lower power 
state when they enter FREEZE.

> Ayway, as of today, we have no infrastructure allowing us to handle resume
> devices in a special way.  However, if we decide to reset all devices before
> restoring the image, we'll probably make such things harder to implement
> in the future.

Given the definition above, if a driver that has problems resuming from a 
FREEZE when the device has been reset then the driver is wrong.

Alan Stern



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