On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 11:18:04PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote: > On Sat, 18 Nov 2006, Oleg Verych wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 10:22:58AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote: > > > Those email addresse in unusual_devs.h are _not_ credits. (The credit > > > belongs to the person who writes and submits the patch, not the person > > > who owns the hardware and reports the problem.) > > > > I think, "code generated from documentation" rule, can be applied here. > > CS theory, but i'm not a CS specialist ;-E > > Sorry, I'm not familiar with that rule.
The Best program is, where sources are generated from the documentation. (Can't remember ref., but it's an idealistic and _right_ thing, IMHO ;) > > > > I wish some day all this static useless id-ification will went to > > > > userspace. > > > > > > I do too. But there are difficulties with doing it. Just as one example, > > > consider trying to boot from a USB pendrive. At that point there _is_ no > > > userspace available to provide the blacklist entries! > > > > Do you mean usb flash drives? > > Yes. Or USB hard disk drives. > > > So, if yes. BIOS knows how to boot from it, right? > > Wrong. The BIOS knows how to load the kernel, but it knows nothing about > the rest of the boot procedure. Ok, lets move from BIOS to bootloader, then, external or in-bzImabe. BIOS loads bootloader sector (whatever it is), then bootloader loads all stuff: kernel image, initrd (optional), and > > Kernel isn't for > > itself, right? > > I don't understand this question. here i mean, that kernel without userspace is just "a panic": "can't mount rootfs" or "killing init" one. (I don't know how to explain it more clear) > > Thus, i think before (any) rootfs image is ready, use > > BIOS. If one is ready use userspace. > > The kernel cannot use the BIOS; it has to use its own drivers. Reason: As > soon as the kernel probes the PCI bus, it takes the USB host controllers > away from the BIOS. Sure, but i mean BIOS->bootloader->early-userspace, not kernel here. ____ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ [email protected] To unsubscribe, use the last form field at: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-usb-devel
