On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Oliver Neukum wrote:

> Am Mittwoch, 31. Januar 2007 17:11 schrieb Alan Stern:
> 
> > This looks more complicated than it should be.  In particular, the 
> > addition of a new "idle" timer should not be needed.
> > 
> > We already have an autosuspend timer: the one embedded in the autosuspend
> > delayed_work struct inside struct usb_device.  What you really want to do
> > is make the delay configurable per-device instead of relying on a fixed
> > constant USB_AUTOSUSPEND_DELAY.  Doing things that way would remove a
> > tremendous amount of complexity from your patch.
> 
> It would also introduce a layering violation.

You mean that you want an interface-specific timer rather than
device-specific.  Won't that add up to an awful lot of timers, especially
when other drivers start doing the same thing?

I think it's better to reduce complexity.  Find a way to live with the
existing single driver-wide timer that allows interface drivers to alter 
the setting in a layering-friendly manner.

> Furthermore that work should be queued only if pm_usage_cnt==0,
> which cannot be allowed if the device isn't idle.

Isn't that what you want?  Surely you aren't trying to start an
autosuspend timer while the device is busy?

> > If the user could put usbcore.autosuspend_delay=60 on the boot command 
> > line, then it would be possible to prevent some devices from being 
> > autosuspended.
> 
> Just startup with autosuspend off.

There _is_ no way to turn it off, other than not setting
CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND -- in which case there's no way to turn it on.

Alan Stern


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