On Thu, 24 May 2007, David Brownell wrote:

> On Thursday 24 May 2007, Alan Stern wrote:
> > Dave:
> > 
> > In this section from usb_new_device():
> > 
> >     if (!is_targeted(udev)) {
> > 
> >             /* Maybe it can talk to us, though we can't talk to it.
> >              * (Includes HNP test device.)
> >              */
> >             if (udev->bus->b_hnp_enable || udev->bus->is_b_host) {
> >                     err = __usb_port_suspend(udev, udev->bus->otg_port);
> >                     if (err < 0)
> >                             dev_dbg(&udev->dev, "HNP fail, %d\n", err);
> >             }
> > 
> > Is there any reason to call __usb_port_suspend() rather than 
> > usb_port_suspend()? 
> 
> Maybe not any more. 

Okay, I'll change it.  It will allow the removal of one layer of 
nesting.

> > After all, an OTG device is required to have no  
> > more than one USB connection, so the port number would always be equal 
> > to udev->portnum and to 1.
> 
> Not true.  It's perfectly legit for a host to have multiple host
> ports, with only one of them being OTG-capable.

Really?  What about section 3.2 in the OTG spec, where it says that an 
On-The-Go device must include:

        one, and only one connection: a Micro-AB receptacle.

Has this been superseded?  Or do people simply ignore it?

>  Not uncommon either;
> it's a simple implementation strategy (combining existing silicon IP
> with an OTG engine), and board designers find serial busses like USB
> are handy as a way to integrate various devices ... simple to route
> on the boards, only two pins, and so forth.  It's not just a way to
> connect external devices.

Alan Stern


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