On 6/23/07, Satyam Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Jan, > > On 6/22/07, Jan Engelhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Jun 22 2007 18:24, Roman Zippel wrote: > > > > > >> There have been discussions to remove the default-ys again, I've sent a > > >> patch > > >> [http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/5/12/216], but nothing happened. > > >> > > >> So, should all affected menuconfigs be transformed into tristates, what > > >> do you think, Roman? Let me know so I can cook up a patch (hopefully > > >> before 2.6.22) should they become tristate. > > > > > >Using bool is clearly a bug and I'd prefer if it removed the defaults as > > >well. > > > > What I don't quite understand is, that CONFIG_CRYPTO is also a bool, > > its subparts are tristates however, and there is no problem involved > > with these. > > That's because neither CONFIG_CRYPTO nor any of the crypto modules > depend on another symbol that is itself tristate (and hence can be modular), > which is the case with all the problematic cases that have been posted to > lkml lately.
To elaborate, the problem is: menuconfig FOO bool "FOO support drivers" depends on BAR if FOO config BAZ tristate "BAZ driver" endif # FOO Where: config BAR tristate "BAR subsystem" The problem occurs when: BAR=m FOO=y (user selects FOO to show menu to be able to then select BAZ) BAZ=y BAZ would be built-in, BAR modular => build breakage. Note that it is *BAZ* that depends on BAR. BAZ is *code* in the kernel sources, and depends on BAR because it calls *code* exported by BAR (obviously). [ We've marked _FOO_ as "depends on BAR" too, however, but that is only because all the related drivers that this menu shows / hides have the common property that they depend on BAR and hence there's no point in showing this menu option to the user unless he has picked BAR already.] The root cause of the problem, as Randy Dunlap pointed out yesterday, is a boolean coming in between the dependency chain of 2 tristates: BAZ (tristate) depends on FOO (bool) depends on BAR (tristate). BAR=m _does_ allow its dependency FOO to be "y", which then allows BAZ (marked as dependency of only FOO but not BAR too, sadly) to be "y". Solution 1: Make all FOO-like configmenu's trisate. => if BAR=m => FOO can only be m too => BAZ can only be m too. But making a menuconfig symbol tristate is ugly, IMHO. These new primitives are just on/off switches to show / hide a further menu that contains related drivers / options, after all. They are bool's by meaning, and need to defined / used as such too. [my opinion, fwiw] Solution 2: Explicitly honour the dependency of BAZ on BAR. 2.(a) do this either explicitly by adding "depends on" in kconfig itself: config BAZ tristate "BAZ driver" depends on BAR => do this for all the config symbols inside any if FOO / endif block where FOO depends on some other tristate symbol itself. But this sounds (and feels like being) redundant. 2.(b) or else, make the config scripts "intelligent" so that if: "menuconfig FOO depends on BAR", then: All the "config BAZ"s inside this menuconfig (inside the if FOO / endif block) also automatically "depend on" BAR too. I would vote for solution 2.(b), personally, but solution 1 is easiest. Satyam ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To unsubscribe, use the last form field at: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-usb-devel