I don't think that is so bad. My laptop hard disk gets;

/dev/hda:
 Timing buffer-cache reads:   2176 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1088.00 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:   78 MB in  3.05 seconds =  25.57 MB/sec

so not twice as fast as you see and I'm sure it will be a lot less in
"real life".

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, Chris TenHarmsel wrote:

> Just ran a timed copy in windows XP via a Cygwin shell, ran it a
> couple times, getting around the same transfer speed....  Maybe the
> ipods just suck, I'm disappointed.
>
> -Chris
>
>
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:55:13 -0500, Chris TenHarmsel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > The device is a fourth generation iPod, and I'll try to get some real
> > data on transfer speeds under windows for comparison, maybe that's all
> > that it can do.
> >
> > -Chris
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:56:00 -0800 (PST), Stephen J. Gowdy
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The device is probably that speed (not that you'd get the full bandwidth
> > > in any case).
> > >
> > > On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Chris TenHarmsel wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > Here's my setup:
> > > > MSI KT6V motherboard with a VIA USB 2.0 controller.  I have an AMD
> > > > Athlon XP 2800+ with 512 Mb of RAM.  I'm running Gentoo, here's output
> > > > from 'uname -a':
> > > >
> > > > Linux pain 2.6.10-gentoo-r7 #1 Wed Feb 9 18:15:36 EST 2005 i686 AMD
> > > > Athlon(tm) XP 2800+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
> > > >
> > > > Here's output from 'lsmod' (I currently have my ipod mounted with it's
> > > > USB cable, it's a 4G ipod, 20Gb, windows formatted):
> > > >
> > > > Module                  Size  Used by
> > > > nvidia               3464924  12
> > > > usb_storage            35584  1
> > > > ndiswrapper           107732  0
> > > > snd_via82xx            23072  1
> > > > snd_ac97_codec         72608  1 snd_via82xx
> > > > gameport                3520  1 snd_via82xx
> > > > snd_mpu401_uart         6144  1 snd_via82xx
> > > > snd_rawmidi            20064  1 snd_mpu401_uart
> > > > ehci_hcd               27588  0
> > > > joydev                  8064  0
> > > > evdev                   7424  0
> > > > usbhid                 23232  0
> > > > uhci_hcd               30160  0
> > > > ohci1394               31428  0
> > > > ieee1394               93748  1 ohci1394
> > > > via_agp                 7424  1
> > > > agpgart                28200  2 via_agp
> > > >
> > > > Output from 'usbtree' (I have a USB keyboard with hub and a usb mouse):
> > > >
> > > > /:  Bus 05.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=ehci_hcd/8p, 480M
> > > >     |__ Port 5: Dev 11, If 0, Class=stor., Driver=usb-storage, 480M
> > > > /:  Bus 04.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=uhci_hcd/2p, 12M
> > > > /:  Bus 03.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=uhci_hcd/2p, 12M
> > > > /:  Bus 02.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=uhci_hcd/2p, 12M
> > > > /:  Bus 01.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=uhci_hcd/2p, 12M
> > > >     |__ Port 1: Dev 4, If 0, Class=HID, Driver=usbhid, 1.5M
> > > >     |__ Port 2: Dev 5, If 0, Class=hub, Driver=hub/3p, 12M
> > > >         |__ Port 1: Dev 6, If 0, Class=HID, Driver=usbhid, 12M
> > > >         |__ Port 1: Dev 6, If 1, Class=HID, Driver=usbhid, 12M
> > > >
> > > > Here's the usb-storage device from /proc/bus/usb/devices:
> > > > T:  Bus=05 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=04 Cnt=01 Dev#= 11 Spd=480 MxCh= 0
> > > > D:  Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs=  1
> > > > P:  Vendor=05ac ProdID=1203 Rev= 0.01
> > > > S:  Manufacturer=Apple
> > > > S:  Product=iPod
> > > > S:  SerialNumber=00000096BC82
> > > > C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=500mA
> > > > I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=06 Prot=50 
> > > > Driver=usb-storage
> > > > E:  Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
> > > > E:  Ad=01(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
> > > >
> > > > Output from 3 back to back runs of 'hdparm -tT /dev/sdb':
> > > > First Run:
> > > > /dev/sdb:
> > > >  Timing cached reads:   920 MB in  2.06 seconds = 447.54 MB/sec
> > > >  Timing buffered disk reads:   44 MB in  3.12 seconds =  14.08 MB/sec
> > > >
> > > > Second Run:
> > > > /dev/sdb:
> > > >  Timing cached reads:   1024 MB in  2.00 seconds = 511.06 MB/sec
> > > >  Timing buffered disk reads:   44 MB in  3.11 seconds =  14.15 MB/sec
> > > >
> > > > Third Run:
> > > > /dev/sdb:
> > > >  Timing cached reads:   772 MB in  2.01 seconds = 383.18 MB/sec
> > > >  Timing buffered disk reads:   42 MB in  3.02 seconds =  13.91 MB/sec
> > > >
> > > > Timed copy of a ~100Mb file, three times in a row:
> > > > time cp vendetta-linux-installer.sh /mnt/ipod
> > > >
> > > > First:
> > > > real    0m18.846s
> > > > user    0m0.018s
> > > > sys     0m1.510s
> > > >
> > > > Second:
> > > > real    0m16.391s
> > > > user    0m0.025s
> > > > sys     0m1.526s
> > > >
> > > > Third:
> > > > real    0m15.343s
> > > > user    0m0.013s
> > > > sys     0m1.351s
> > > >
> > > > So, as far as I can tell, my transfer rate falls somewhere right
> > > > around 7MB/s for real files, and the reported 14MB/s from hdparm.
> > > > Neither of these numbers is really near the 480Mb/s (aprox 60MB/s
> > > > right?).
> > > >
> > > > I guess my question is, what's going on?  Did I do something wrong?
> > > > Why am I not getting higher transfer rates?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any help you can offer, I really appreciate it.
> > > >
> > > > -Chris
> > > >
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