On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Christian Haul wrote:

> Alan Stern wrote:
> > On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, Christian Haul wrote:
> >> This block repeats for every 2 seconds..... and top shows around CPU 40% hi
> > 
> > I have trouble believing that a few milliseconds of activity occurring 
> > once every two seconds is enough to push your CPU usage to 40%.
> 
> Well.... I've taken this after I have stopped hald for some ten minutes
> 
>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
>  2989 root      10  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   3:57.77 usb-storage
> 
> You see, the system spent 3:57.77 minutes in the usb-storage module, and
> that with an uptime of 1:35 hrs.

About 1 part in 25?  That would amount to 80 ms for each poll, if the 
polls occur at 2-second intervals.  Sounds way too long.  5 ms or less 
would be about what I expect.

It's hard to account for where the time was spent from the ps listing.  
It would help if you could provide another dmesg log with
CONFIG_PRINTK_TIME set.

> # uptime
>  20:05:26 up  1:35,  4 users,  load average: 1.69, 2.18, 2.23
> 
> idle system with hald running (for about 30 secs):
> 
> top - 20:12:28 up  1:42,  5 users,  load average: 2.67, 1.90, 2.00
> Tasks: 160 total,   2 running, 157 sleeping,   1 stopped,   0 zombie
> Cpu(s):  9.6% us,  7.0% sy,  0.0% ni, 54.5% id,  5.3% wa, 22.9% hi,  0.7% si
> Mem:   1037080k total,  1027028k used,    10052k free,   335928k buffers
> Swap:  1245932k total,       12k used,  1245920k free,   128192k cached

I can't really say what that means.

> > They're right about the polling, but they're wrong about the kernel driver
> > needing to be fixed.  In fact nothing needs to be fixed as far as I can
> > see, except possibly the statistics you get from top.  Have you tried
> > experimenting with a real load present, such as running a benchmark
> > program?  Try to find out how much hald and usb-storage really do slow 
> > down performance.
> 
> Actually, this was where it all started. I experienced a load > 10 when
> only browsing the web and the machine was more than sluggish. OK, this
> is only an XP 1800+ with 1GB RAM, still, for web browsing a load of 10
> is incredible.

I don't recall anyone else reporting this kind of trouble.  It's possible 
that there's something funny going on with your card reader.

> After removing usb-storage / stopping hald everything is nice and
> smooth. Except for removable media auto-detection :-(
> 
> Yes, I really do think something is broken here.

Maybe it's the hardware.

Alan Stern



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