On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 05:23:04PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, Rogier Wolff wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 10:23:27AM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > > The other external disk (also claimed to be full speed) seems to 
> > > > achieve 
> > > > transfer speeds of 20-30 KB which seems OK.
> > > 
> > > If 400 KB/s is bad, how come 20-30 KB/s is OK?
> > 
> > He probably means 20-30 M byte/sec. 
> 
> How could a full-speed device possibly transfer data at 20-30 MB/s?

Because consumers confuse full speed (12) and high speed (480). 

> When it comes to ports, the situation is even more confusing.  By 
> definition, any port (on a computer's root hub or on an external hub) 
> that conforms to the USB 2.0 spec must be able to run at high speed.  
> So if "the USB comittee", whoever they are, decided to call a port that 
> doesn't suppport high speed a USB 2.0 port, they did so in violation of 
> the spec.

Hmm. ok. Then those computers I was talking about should be advertised
as having some USB2.0 and some USB 1.1 ports. Fine. Maybe that's the
case. 

> Or that ehci-hcd simply wasn't loaded.  Maybe you didn't notice, but 
> none of the buses in Wim's usbview listing supported high speed.

No, I didn't notice... :-)


My workstation upstairs shows:

 |
 |- UHCI Host controller
 |
 |- UHCI Host controller
 |
 |- UHCI Host controller
 |
 -- UHCI Host controller
 | |
 | |- ALTERA IO BOARD 2.0
 | |
 | -- USB HUB
 |    |
 |    |- CanoScan
 |    |
 |    |- USB <-> Serial
 |- EHCI Host controller.  

Which means that I can connect a fast (highspeed) device to the wrong
port and have it perform badly. 

And yes, you're right that the EHCI driver needs to be loaded before 
reasonable performance is possible. 


        Roger. 

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