I will not assist anyone to install smoothwall. Richard Morrell is a wanker.
In fact we ought to ban smoothwall on principle. 2 cents, the cheque is in the mail. On Thursday 13 June 2002 19:11, Christopher Sawtell wrote: > Bjorn Nilsen wrote: > > May be the list should be cut down to the following as do we really want > > to install any thing else for new people to Linux? Debian is my distro of > > choice but I would never set it up for a newbie, unless I was prepared to > > hand hold them for the next few months. > > The big advantages of Debian are that apt-get works so well, and you > have a pretty good control of what is installed. > > > Redhat > > Mandrake > > Suse > > Smoothwall/IPCop > > I'm somewhat chary of Smoothwall. They are not now offering any support > whatsoever for the GPL edition which they see as a taster for buying a > commercial version. If somebody were to contact them they will probably > either not get any reply at all or else a revolting spew of foul mouthed > four letter words. For somebody coming to Linux for the first time the > behaviour of the Smoothwall crew would be a big put off. IPCop is an > acrimonious fork and by contrast the people there are a delight to work > with. The distributions are currently very similar, but diverging > rapidly. If it makes any difference the attitude of the Smoothwall > people towards the GPL is cavalier to put it kindly. > > The other type of install I think should be on hand is one of the ones > which can be installed on top of Windows, I'm thinking of either Lin4win > or Peanut. Unfortunately neither looks particularly attractive visually, > and Peanut is really rather too bleeding edge. The reason for suggesting > this is that it allows somebody to take the first tentative steps into > Linux without altering the partition table. > > Anybody know of a distribution/brand of this type which they would be > happy to have around during the install-fest? > > >>do you want to really do gentoo if we have limited outside download > >>resources? It has to download all the sources then compile them. It > >>takes a lot of time (X alone is something like 50-60 MB). There is also > >>nothing "automatic" about it, quite tricky, it will take a > >>disproportionate amount of the volunteers time to supervise it, and take > >>up space another installer could be using. > > I have the .iso for gentoo-1.2 > It contains a prebuilt stage3 install.
