Just an observation... And please take it in the light-hearted manner
that it was written :)

I think the problem deciding what to have at the meetings stems from the
fact that the CLUG was formed by a group of dedicated die-hard Linux
bodgies who know the OS inside-out and love it like their own child... 

Whereas, through things like the install fest, it has become a more
general group of wanna-be cross-platform tinkerers who think it might be
cool to play tux-racer and same-game from time to time 

Because the original core group would rather compile kernels and write
code than even go NEAR the X server there is a conflict... And yet it
was those original core who drew the newbies in... And so the problem...

Personally I like the split bi-monthly idea... Have a newbie-orientated
meeting one month and a more in-depth technical meeting focussing on one
or two subjects the next.

More of my 2c
 
Regards

Steve Dunford
4WD Stuff
ph. 021 637 600
fax 03 314 7257
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.4wdstuff.co.nz


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2002 09:11
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Meeting format. ( rather long )


Greetings Folks,

The whole question of the meeting format it to some extent tied up with
what 
the CLUG is for. What are we trying to be?

1) A cell of missionary zealots?
2) A self help group?
3) A social club for geeks?

Probably all three at once plus others that I havn't thought of.

Anyway, I think our meetings could and should reflect the differing
needs of 
the members.

If we are going to have a meeting to give a positive message to putative
new 
members "Ra ra, isn't this Linux stuff just absolutely wonderful?", i.e.
a 
session for group one, then it's absolutely essential that the speech is

effectively animated with very quick demonstrations of many useful and 
visually exciting programs, so that people leave the meeting with the
idea 
"Mm, this Linux stuff looks good, must look into it". Speakers should 
remember that the format of the predominant mass communications medium
means 
that most folk in the general population come pre-programmed to have an 
attention span of about seven minutes. Unfortunately, what might be an 
appropriate format for a University lecture is quite possibly a droning
bore 
for many members of the general public. 

I would particularly appreciate an evening or two for group two people. 
Personally I'd really appreciate a bit of help understanding how to set
up my 
X-11 Windowing System in frame buffer mode with a Matrox G200 card. It
works some of the time, non-commercial Tux Racer goes beautifully, but 
other programs complain with error messages. I'd also like to get the
wheel 
on the mouse to scroll the windows, It's suppose to do that isnt it? I
see 
this as people bringing their machines along to a totally unstructured
clinic 
type evening. Slugs of caffein liberally available please? Small
sideshows of 
all kinds very welcome too.

I really enjoyed the evening out at the Pegasus Arms. Let's have more of
those 
kind of outings from time to time.

Cheers,

--
Sincerely etc.,
Christopher Sawtell



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