my 2 roubles: scripting is an important part of life with linux. Just tbeing able to write a very brief script to download a selection of files, analyse a log report, whatever.
I'm not so sure c is essential to a newbie/enduser. Sure the whole system is written in c, but if you just wish to process a few text files and maintain your system etc, then simple scripting is fine. Also 5 mins per language is not really enough. Therefore I think pick three main scripting languages and give, say, 20-30 mins on each, then 20 minutes to summarise "the rest". I am not volunteering, in fact the reason I want some depth to the discussions is to build my own knowledge base :-) I'd choose bash/shell (including piping, redirection, a bit of awk & sed) as one, perl as the next and python as the third. Thats not to put down anyones favourite language. Just personal choice, a "feeling" about whats going to be"useful" to most people. python seems to be building a real following. On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 10:11:11+0000 Zane Gilmore<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't mind defending Perl. > Seeing as though I have now had a bit of experience with it and it is > such a powerful and useful language. > > I've also done a fair bit in TCL/Tk and PHP. > > Python/Ruby/Awk/Guile I don't know much about > > What may be a good talk is just a quick rundown/demo on programming in > general. > > I or whoever could demonstrate a "hello world" program in C. > Showing the compilation steps etc. This could add a good insite into > the kernel and Gentoo compilation stuff. > > > > > Regards, > Zane > > On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 05:03, Paul wrote: > > I can do a talk on PHP as a shell type scripting language as well as > > python. I think if we did say 5 + mins per language giving, as I > > said, a nice brief outline of it strengths and weaknesses it would > > be good. Now... the "core groups' " approval? > > > > -Paul > > > > On Thursday 21 November 2002 05:53 pm, Paul wrote: > > > Like I said "brief". Unlike windows you, need to at least have > > > some idea of a scripting language to take full advantage of linux > > > (in my humble opinion) > > > > > > On Thursday 21 November 2002 05:45 pm, Mahesh De Silva wrote: > > > > Hey all.. > > > > > > > > Are we at risk of scaring off a lot newbies? > > > > > > > > Good topic idea tho.. just need to keep it to a > > > > overview tho... IMHO. > > > > > > > > Mahesh > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Paul wrote: > > > > > > Maybe others could talk on Shell Scripting, Perl, > > > > > > > > > > Ruby, Awk, > > > > > > > > > > > Tcl/Tk and any others. > > > > > > > > > > I can talk on Bash/Perl/Ruby/Awk/Guile if you want. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Carter Phone : > > > > > (64)(3) 358 6639 > > > > > Tait Electronics Fax : > > > > > (64)(3) 359 4632 > > > > > PO Box 1645 Christchurch Email : > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > New Zealand > > > > > > > > > > Good Ideas: > > > > > Ruby - http://www.ruby-lang-org - > > > > > The best of perl,python,scheme without the pain. > > > > > Valgrind - > > > > > http://developer.kde.org/~sewardj/ - memory debugger > > > > > for x86-GNU/Linux > > > > > Free your books - http://www.bookcrossing.com > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > For Linux CD's check out http://www.xsolutions.co.nz > > > > > > > > http://www.yahoo.promo.com.au/hint/ - Yahoo! Hint Dropper > > > > - Avoid getting hideous gifts this Christmas with Yahoo! Hint > > > > Dropper! > > > > > > >
