On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 13:41, you wrote:
> Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> > On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 11:16, you wrote:
> >>OK. Replying to my own message here.
> >>
> >>Carl Cerecke wrote:
> >>>They donated some stuff to the toy libaray (a 486 running win 95A and
> >>>240MB hard drive. It was upgraded to win 95C and required a bigger
> >>>hard drive - 540MB. They charge $120 (hundred twenty!) for the 540MB
> >>>hard drive and took the smaller hard drive too.
> >
> > They should not have taken the smaller drive unless it was part of the
> > prearranged deal. Otherwise that's theft pure and simple.
> >
> > Depending when the transaction took place and whether the drive was new
> > or not, $120 might not have been a _too_ outrageous price. What might
> > appear to you and I to be profiteering is sometimes justifiable when you
> > take into account the realities of the overheads of running a business.
>
> You can get a 20-30GB HD for $120. The $120 above did not include
>   labour - only the drive.
If this transaction took place _recently_, i.e. in the last few months,
yes I'd agree, at first sight anyway, gross profiteering, but then one has to 
ask if a modern multi-gigabyte disk would have worked properly with that very 
old PC. Probably not. You'd be really hacked off if they had been sold a 
modern 20+ GB disk that didn't work properly, or was set up with a tiny 
partition so the bios worked ok wouldn't you?

> >>>They sold the Avon
> >>>Toy Library a no-name 1.2Ghz laptop, with no floppy drive for backups,
> >>>for $2600!
> >
> > Was it brand new, or possibly just a month or two old?
>
> Don't know. The fan rattles loudly against the cover sometimes.
> The Avon Toy Library was trusting the guy to give them a good
> deal. They didn't ask around, and they certainly didn't ask
> me.
Silly chumps.
If new, or _very_ nearly so, that's a very full retail price agreed, but not a 
total wrought. An older 400 to 700 MHz machine would probably have done the 
job at about 1/3 to 1/2 the cost.

> > What licenced software came as part of the deal?
>
> Win XP
>
> >>I'm going to pick up a license at lunchtime. How do I tell if it
> >>is Win 95C, not an earlier release?
> >
> > AFAIK, the Win95 licence includes the upgrades.
> > It's having the bank-note like licence document that's important, not the
> > distribution CD.
>
> Yep. Got the license, but no CD. They said they would copy me a Win 95
> CD for $15. I said no thanks.
Understandably.

> >>If there was any reasonable toy library software for Linux, they'd
> >>be running that, I assure you. If I had free time, I'd code one.
> >
> > Have you thought of koha?
> >
> > http://www.koha.org
> >
> > Although it's intended for book libraries & probably more than you need,
> > it might be a good place to start. It has been installed locally by a
> > list member and is reported to work well.
>
> I'll check it out. Toy libraries might just be different enough
> from Book libraries to make it an awkward fit.

Perhaps the Molten Media trustees do indeed need reminding what their staff is 
doing? Anybody else like to comment?

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C. S.

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