Well I forced it (rpm -f) and I could then recognise the file. I then 
uninstalled kppp and then reinstalled, and now runs fine in root.... But not 
in my users environments. It says they dont have permissions. This is the 
permissions for kppp in /usr/bin/kppp*.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ ls -al | grep kppp
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           13 Jul 20 23:18 kppp -> consolehelper
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root       131966 Aug 13  2002 kpppload
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        92683 Aug 25  2002 kppplogview

can anyone tell me what they should be and how to change them through the 
console.
(have a peak at you own untampered dir)

Thanks

Leighton


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