Addendum to my last post, after reading a couple of other things. And
remembering about TV-in as well as out.

XBox as TV box would pose problems, unless you can get a USB capture
card. 

The VIA boards only have one PCI slot, but support two cards. A 1-2 PCI
riser card is available for an extra $25 or so. This wont fit in the
slimline case _I_think_ as it has a 1-1 riser card anyway. Getting a
case that this fits would be the trickiest thing. I've lost the address
of the place that makes the cases used with the FIC Falcon. A google for
CK-1010 should turn up something if you're dedicated though (case model
number)

Procase will sell the PSU on its own if you're looking to build your own
case, (read: hide it inside a box of weetbix.) or get some other case.

So maybe get a version 2 of the FIC Falcon, replace the PSU for the
quiet factor, put a tv tuner card or capture card in the pci slot, use
the onboard video out and tv out. Should work nicely.

On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 12:27, Sascha Beaumont wrote:
> Procase (www.procase.co.nz) sell a box with a 12V DC 55W PSU for the
> EPIA, EPIA-V or the EPIA-M boards. They're a *slightly* different form
> so minor acse layout changes. There is an external 240V adaptor, and
> they only take slimline CD/DVD drives. They will sell to the public
> direct I beleive, or there are some resellers around NZ.
> 
> This means the best solution IMHO would be an external USB casing that
> you can stick a normal cdrom in (why oh why did I only think of this
> now!)
> 
> The FIC Falcons are not bad, I've got one myself (100% linux of course),
> but the PSU is _NOISY_ (even with the "noise reducer" sticker on the
> PSU) - My girlfriends P4 is slightly quieter. I've since moved my falcon
> case inside the cupboard of my desk in an attempt to quiet it. I use a
> low profile GF2MX PCI video card in my falcon for Video, and TV-Out and
> I'm waiting on Dove to get some of the low profile GF4 PCI cards in so I
> can upgrade to one of those. The original falcon didnt ship with TVOut
> but the new one does (not sure if Dove is stocking it yet though)
> 
> Theres a lot more support for the EPIA boards in the 2.6 kernel,
> especially with some of the more fanciful features such as cpu power
> saving.
> 
> Although its all nice and good, modding an XBox to run with the linux
> bios is definetly a cheaper option if its just for TV/PVR. I dont know
> how fast it would be though, if you put in an evolution-x bios then you
> can run both XBox Media player (all dvd, cd, vcd, formats), Linux and
> XBox games too. 
> 
> The other option is a Shuttle PC, an IR remote control is available for
> these as well, I havent looked at it but presumably its going to be USB
> so could run on any PC not just the shuttle. You've got more flexibility
> with these than the VIA solution, but also higher power consumption and
> price.
> 
> A quick search on pricespy for EPIA-M gives Ascent and SmartPC Hamilton
> the best pricing, depending on your choice of the 1Ghz in PC133 or DDR
> you'll pay something like $250-$350. Check www.ascent.co.nz for pricing.
> Procase slimline case and PSU will set you back $160-200 depending where
> you get it from. Direct from procase is the cheapest. The EPIA-V10000 is
> slightly cheaper, and takes PC133 instead of DDR. 
> 
> Overall I'd have to say the VIA boards are very nice to use, I've had no
> real problems with them at all and we've sold a few Falcons through work
> as desktops, and I use a Falcon as my own desktop. The brilliance for me
> in them is the portability of a laptop (fits in a backpack) at a much
> cheaper price. I cart mine to work, friends places with no problems. 
> 
> Video performance of the 933Mhz is acceptable with a GF2 (_just_
> bareable with the onboard video), but the increased cache in the new
> Nehemiah core, and the DDR option should speed things up considerably.
> And getting the hardware decoder chip to work would be a bonus as well. 
-- 
Sascha Beaumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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