On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 01:27:24PM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > Key bindings? I always assumed it would be possible to change that, > been on the lookout... Would you be able to email me (offlist) your > bash key bindings
i'll include the relevant one here: "\e\C-h": backward-kill-word "\e\C-?": backward-kill-word "\C-w": unix-word-rubout > (how do you get a list of that? bindkey in tcsh) and bind -p (help bind) > your output of set. konsole has a variable which holds the separation > characters, perhaps bash has the same. doesn't look like it. > I don't *want* to configure things either, as you say, if I can avoid > it, but there are limits beyond which configuration becomes desirable. sure, the difference is that my limits are much higher. > In this case, my default is better, regardless of what the software > shipped as, and this is one of the situations where I disagree with you > about leaving software configured as shipped. I want things to work, > I'm afraid I don't care about how someone else may ship it. i have no choice, i must care. > I don't see the problem you're having. > Software is configurable for a reason. if i am to teach and help others, my settings must be the same as everybody elses. it does not help a newbie if i tell him that tab does completion and then it does not work. you or me may be able to deal with that (for us it is enough to learn that a feature exists in order to go and figure out how to use it, but from a new user this can not be expected.) the more my setup differs from that of a new user, the less likely i am able to help. as a system administrator it is my JOB to be able to help. seperating myself from what the normal user gets is only making my job difficoult. and that is just not acceptable. > I disagree. Some distros work hard at making things user-friendly and > consitent, which is far more important than sticking with some > obnoxious defaults some program may provide. well, how about the program defaults should be user-friendly to begin with? what would be if the distros push their changes upstream to the program developers? how about using the lsb to establish a standard for those user-friendly settings? i don't mind work being done to make things friendly. i do mind having to do that work myself! i have no time for that (and the above reasons about teaching) i will simply select the program/distro which does have the most userfriendly settings and move on to get my work done. greetings, martin. -- Pike Conference 2003 - Sep 25-27 - http://pike.ida.liu.se/conferences/2003/ -- interested in doing pike programming, sTeam/caudium/pike/roxen training, sTeam/caudium/roxen and/or unix system administration anywhere in the world. -- pike programmer working in europe open-steam.org unix system- bahai.or.at iaeste.(tuwien.ac|or).at administrator (stuts|black.linux-m68k).org is.(schon.org|root.at) Martin B�hr http://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/
