> > out how much volume is in the mailbox. Turns out that their *&([EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > webmail doesn't say (for any folder) how much space is taken up out of
> > the 10MB, but all the rubbish in the spam/virus folder counts against
> > the quota nevertheless.

> I have just this moment spoken to Paradise on this prticular point and have 
> been informed that the above is NOT true. i.e. The contents of the spam 
> box does NOT count against the quota. You will not be charged extra for the 
> storage of spam, neither will you be charged for its reception.

Well, I have spoken to Paradise's helpdesk right this morning, and they
said the spam folder content does count against the mailbox quota. They
then offered to put me through to one of their technicians, and he also
said it does count against my mailbox quota.

Both of them mentioned it'll be deleted automatically after 30 days, 
but neither of them said anything when I asked what if there are 1GB of
mails in those 30 days.

It's not the spam/virus filter which I mind, it's the lack of useful
accessibility. TelstraClearParadise has no plans to address this.

> It is only 
> the traffic from Paradise to your machine which is chargeable against your 
> traffic total.

Yes sure, it's like that with every ISP, or?

> > Not sure whether Paradise is still worth recommendation.
> 
> I am absolutely sure that they are.

Overall probably yes, but it has gone downhill in the last 12 months.
Their webmail isn't more than average, and not offering imap (which
would solve the webmail problem) is behind the times, or do you
disagree?

To make sure your mailbox is within quota, you currently have 2
options: waste a lot of your download bandwidth (no problems as long
you'll be below your cap), or waste time on daily webmail orgies. Both
less than desirable.

> I don't think many of the other ISP's will offer any better.

May well be true. :(

> The spam is a royal PITA

It currently is only a negligible fraction (compared by disk volume)
with the size of the virus problem.

> and the sooner lax legislation is updated to

Yes, the sooner Shane Whatshisface is hanging by his anatomy (or left
to play with his enlarged <> in a small room on Her Majesty's pleasure)
the better. Or software companies are liable for their products.

> force ISP's to actively kill this stuff the better...

Sorry, not that easy. Would you like legislation which forces NZ post to
open + read all your paper mail, then to ditch those which it thinks
legislation requires them to burn?

Volker

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