I agree - thanks Jim.  Very helpful.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:23 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Getting Debian
> 
> 
> Thank you Jim, that is the clearest description of debian 
> releases I have seen in a long time, if not ever!
> 
> 
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 09:53:08 +1300
> Jim Cheetham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 09:37, Brad Beveridge wrote:
> > > 1) Stable
> > >  - Older packages, very solid
> > >  - Code name????
> > Currently called woody.
> > 
> > > 2) Testing
> > >  - Newer packages, still quite stable, not bleeding edge
> > >  - Code name???
> > Currently called sarge
> > 
> > > 3) Unstable
> > >  - Bleeding edge
> > Yes, but stable enough to run a workstation on :-)
> > >  - Code name???
> > Always called sid
> > 
> > > Basically, I don't know what the code names are & I am 
> not sure if I 
> > > have testing & stable around the right way.  Could someone please 
> > > enlighten me?
> > 
> > The code names are basically unimportant. The 
> 'distribution' that you 
> > choose simply informs the package manager what versions to get and 
> > track. You can, if you want, install packages from 
> 'unstable' into a 
> > 'stable' machine ... the downside is that this might require you to 
> > upgrade loads of dependancies as well (like libc), so think 
> carefully
> > :-)
> > 
> > There are other 'distributions', like backports.org, which takes 
> > up-to-date software that would otherwise exist in 'unstable', and 
> > build it with 'stable' versions of the dependancies. You 
> can therefore 
> > install a backported application into a 'stable' box, 
> without having 
> > to upgrade loads of dependancies (especially libc!)
> > 
> > Security upgrades are performed to stable versions. Take the recent 
> > kernel security problems - these were fixed in new kernel 
> versions by 
> > kernel.org. The Debian security team applied the patches to 
> the older 
> > kernel versions associated with 'stable' a couple of days 
> later - so 
> > your 'stable' box could continue running 2.4.18, but would 
> include the 
> > latest security fixes.
> > 
> > For a workstation, I've had no problem with 'unstable'.
> > For servers, I track 'stable', but include extra software from 
> > 'backports.org' and 'unstable' where necessary.
> > 
> > :-)
> > 
> > -jim
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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