On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 23:35, Patrick Dunford wrote:
> Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> >Got caught by the flippin' Reply-To: again. Sorry
> >
> >----------  Forwarded Message  ----------
> >
> >Subject: Re: [OT] LAN cable tester in Christchurch to borrow please
> >Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 21:12
> >From: Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 18:00, Yuri de Groot wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>Does anyone have an advanced LAN cable tester I can borrow
> >>in Chch?
> >>I have one that tests each of the 8 strands for electrical
> >>conductivity, but it does not test ability to carry ethernet
> >>traffic - if ya know wha I mean.
> >
> >I came across a very similar situation to your's a while ago.
> >After much confusion with very odd intermittent faults it transpired that
> > the poorly put together Ethernet wiring would happily carry 10MHz
> > signals, but not 100MHz. Sometimes the net worked ok as a 10MHz net, at
> > others it failed as a 100MHz. We were confused for quite a while. After
> > rewireing it properly, it worked perfectly.
> >
> >The point of the story is that it might be worth your while putting an old
> >10MHz card in one of the machines to force your net to run at 10MHz. If it
> >works at the lower frequency, then that more or less proves that you have
> >problems with noise on the cable run.
>
> What can cause noise on network cables?

Cross-talk from the mains would be the most usual. In any situation remotely 
'industrial' the mains wiring can be a real noise generator.

As a previous poster stated running Ethernet close to mains wiring is usually 
the problem. imho, At least 50 cms in practice leave at least one stud space 
between them in a wall.

RF from broadcasting transmitters is another source of interference.
These days cell-phones are a real bane. Seen the notices in the hospitals?

> I'm interested because I spend a 
> bit of my time each week dealing with problems in a network of about 60
> computers spread over two sites. We have had a complete failure of a 16
> port network switch, but we have also had ongoing problems with one
> particular printer on the network that people seem to have recurring
> loss of connectivity to. I'm planning to do some more tests with a
> 10Mbps hub instead of a 100Mbps switch at that location.

Faulty earthing causing earth-loops is another problem all of its own.
Running Ethernet between buildings, particularly in an industrial situation, 
is simply not possible.

-- 
Sincerely etc.
Christopher Sawtell

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