Mel is a real programmer.
http://info.astrian.net/jargon/Hacker_Folklore/The_Story_of_Mel.html


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 2:28 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Are you real or just a fake?! (Was: RE: Gnomemeeting 
> to go to QT --> QT Demo...)
> 
> 
> Dream 2000...
> 
> Step 1. Make PCB from tear out page in magazine...
> 
> Step 2. Solder all bits on to PCB...
> 
> Step 3. Enter hundreds of code instructions from 10 pages in 
> magazine...
> (Pray power company doesn't cut off power - what's a USP? 
> .... oh you mean
> bunch of batteries).
> 
> Step 4.  Play the game.
> 
> ....
> 
> Now Olwen, you had the upper hand a moment ago... (mainly become I was
> rolling on the floor laughting at your comments, yes I 
> enjoyed your humour
> that much :)
> 
> Now please be kind and remember I was 9 when the Dream 2000 
> came out...  be
> nice if you're going to start talking about whinding feric 
> bed memmory! :)
> 
> Cheers Don
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Williams, Olwen - SAL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 2:14 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Gnomemeeting to go to QT --> QT Demo...
> >
> >
> > I don't consider myself to be a real programmer -- I started
> > in COBOL which
> > is not a real programmer's tool.
> >
> > The "real" programmers I knew were the ones who would punch
> > object code with
> > a 15 key hand card punch and load it on the B500 and have 
> it perform a
> > useful task.
> >
> > But I do take exception to one of your comments.  I don't
> > often answer to
> > "him".
> >
> > I was going to take exception with the 35 years, but
> > unfortunately you are
> > right (oh dear)
> >
> > Olwen Williams
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Don Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 1:47 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Gnomemeeting to go to QT --> QT Demo...
> >
> >
> > Olwen,
> >
> > You may consider your self a real programmer because you 
> use a product
> > that's older than half of the programmers out there 
> writting web pages
> > today...  I'm not going to argue the toss with you on that
> > one :)  Just
> > because you've been doing something badly and the hard way
> > for near on 35
> > years is no reason to stop now (in my book anyway).
> >
> > (Dear God, please let Olwen see that I'm just pulling his
> > chain a little and
> > he should simply write me off with contempt for the comments
> > above, Kind
> > regards Don.)
> >
> > As for real programmers... the one guy I considered a 'real
> > programmer'
> > (this life time) could program in ASM faster than most people
> > I know can
> > read.  I've never seen someone take 100,000 lines of code and
> > turn it into
> > something that works over night before I saw what this guy
> > did with some
> > call accounting software that we'd had someone else design.
> >
> > Anyway, I think I should leave the rest of this debate for a
> > beer down at a
> > local pub some time.
> >
> >
> > Cheers Don
> >
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