Volker Kuhlmann wrote:

downside, too... like needing to be pretty good understanding german for in-depth support.



??? The manuals are available in several languages (and no other distro has that much manual). Official support requests have always been handled in English (as well as in other language(s)). Most of the docs are English. The SDB is multilingual. Does any other distro offer that many languages? Where have you only been able to proceed in German?



I find the best support from newsgroups. The most detailed and informative are not in my native language. You're not going to contest that the SuSE homeland is in central europe are you (^:

And the mention of a 5th CD makes me wonder...!



We're talking professional here, I wouldn't bother with less. 5 CDs, 2 double-sided(!) DVDs.



that I'm mentioning Debian here (: )



You could argue about the number of packages for Debian here, but it
also has other downsides (e.g. only being stable every >2 years).


? Just because a release is called stable...! Certainly unstable is now stable ( we use it in production ), and it could be argued that testing is as stable as most other distros.



I reckon that if there was one clear 'best distro', then the majority of people would be using it.


Ehhhh, bad argument. You're using winblows, are you?


Only when I have no alternative ): The biggest problem I have is joke M$ pptp 'vpn's to old NT servers, where the linux stuff refuses to run at such low levels of encryption!

I should have rephrased that to only include only the audience who have recovered from M$ brainwashing!

Plus we're talking beginners here and people who don't want to know how
things work.


I made the point a few weeks ago that for those kind of reasons Knoppix should be considered the no. 1 candidate. Simple install, outstanding hardware detection... quick!



I'm not sure about the comment about 'If i'm going to go to the trouble of grabbing drivers from all over the place, i may as well install debian'. Why?



Once you need to download missing pieces, might as well d/l the lot.
For some (most?) people that's not an option. And some people who could
d/l still prefer to have install media, e.g. those installing more than
one box. Once you've made a backup of the downloads, you're where you'd
be after unpacking the media from some box, but the latter is a lot
faster.


All distros are being updated weekly to some degree, as are all M$ 'O/S'es. It's quite tedious to have any M$ install CD that then doesn't require multiple visite to get is up to date. The simplest solution would probably be to make your own source - point apt/emerge/up2date/... and connect to it over a lan. It would probably make installfests run a lot faster ( if they're not already being done that way, of course ).

Volker



Cheers,

Steve

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