> Yup, some of the AMD parts around that time ran rather warm. Intel > parts have the same problems at times; it's mostly a matter of being > near the end of a particular packaging/fabrication/etc. lifecycle.
No, rather being near the beginning. The chipmaker designs a brand new (or significantly changed) chip, which as life goes requires heaps more transistors and thus silicon real estate. To manufacture it, new areas of technology have to be entered, and optimisation doesn't happen for all parameters at the same time. Most important is to get the chip out the door!! After that, the manufacturing process can be improved and power consumption reduced. E.g. the first pentium ones you could fry eggs on, for later models you wouldn't know whether the fan failed a year ago. Similar things can be observed when there were major bumps in athlon designs. The bottom line is that you don't want a CPU which runs very hot. > You've confused two closely positioned groups; serious gamer/tweaker > types who do have a clue, and idiots. Sorry, having no interest in games (I must be from another planet) I only noticed the larger of the two groups... Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
