Nick,
 they had a "crappy old 14 inch monitor" before and were happy.

      let them be.

If you insist, a couple of hundred dollars will upgrade the monitor to a 
17" display, capable of doing 1024x768, 85hz.

The optical mouse is $15 brand new from PC practice. 
 the mouse is not secondhand. It works nicely - the wheel is great.


But, my arguement illustrates the point.
For $500, they can have a new machine, which compares "ok" with a second 
hand mac.


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My lunchtime was spent wondering what I had started with this thread......
and answering emails on it.....And if I would be lynched if I showed up at 
the next clug meeting.


Derek.
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Nick Rout wrote:

> 
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:53:55 +1300 (NZDT)
> Derek Smithies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi, 
> >   Less.
> > 
> >   $500 at a firm like tastech or PC practice will give you a brand new PC 
> > (OS less) for one to install linux on.
> > 
> > $15 for an optical mouse.
> > 
> > grab the old windows monitor, all done.....
> 
> come on, who wants a crappy old 14 inch monitor, and you can't say that
> a $500 box with a 10 year old monitor and a second hand mouse in any way
> equates to a mac.
> 
> I just went to magnum mac at lunch time (no i didn't buy a computer) and
> those machines, and particularly the displays, are nothing short of
> beautiful.
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Derek.
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote:
> > 
> > > Exactly right Nick.
> > > 
> > > Give me 2/3 of the dollars you would pay for a new Mac and  will build a
> > > rock solid and very useable Linux box too.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Robert
> > > 
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > From:     Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > Sent:     Monday, 29 November 2004 2:37 p.m.
> > > To:       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject:  Re: What do I give my "parents" [OT.. Macs]
> > > 
> > > apple of course take that out of the equation with a very tight
> > > proprietary hardware spec. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > -- 
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> > for email
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> > apparently from me, it has
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]                    forged  the e-mail headers on 
> > someone else's machine
> > ph +64 3 365 6485                              Please do not notify me when 
> > (apparently) receiving a
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> 
> 

-- 
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from me, it has
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