On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 10:29, Jason Greenwood wrote:
> Yes, I know, similar on Drake. That doesn't work too well on non-Gentoo
> systems now does it?
True.
> And if you don't want to compile?? 
Ah. But _you_ don't compile, your computer - directed by the Gentoo .ebuild 
script - does. You do not have to know one iota about what it's doing.
Compiling is nothing to be allergic to, honestly it's no big deal.

> There's the rub.  
> Different distros, er, strokes for different folks.
Indeed, vive la differance.

> Compiling all that on a less than modern machine aint exactly going to
> be quick now is it?
It all depends on how you define "quick", it's going to be a _great deal_ 
faster - even on a 600MHz machine - than footling around until 03:00am 
looking for some weird rpm file to d/l.

> Took me 5 minutes of downloading over 128K adsl and 
> then 2 minutes of installing and I was done... =)
You conveniently forget the time taken to find the particular file you need, 
and then fighting all the demons living in rpm hell. Been there, done that, 
_never_ again. Remember that Linux is an Open _Source_ system. imho binary 
distributions of it are an anachronism from 10 years ago when the ordinary 
personal user was lucky to have a 33 Mhz '486 with 8 megs of ram. That sort 
of machine could not do very much compiling at all. The situation today is 
that memory and speed are about a 100 times bigger and faster than there were 
then. Building packages from source is quite practical now-a-days.
  
> Statically linked RPMS 
> are even better than Gentoo for most smallish programs IMHO. No
> dependency hell, just download, install, use. Simple. With modern cheap
> hard drives, WHO CARES about library duplication?? I certainly don't!!!
For a machine used by a single user I agree completely, but for a machine used 
concurrently by many users shared object libraries do save massive amounts of 
still somewhat precious memory.


> Cheers
>
> Jason
>
> Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> > On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 09:53, Jason Greenwood wrote:
> >>The setup was straightforward and quick once I found the right info -
> >>which took me until 3am (!)....
> >
> > 3am Egads ( !!! )
> >
> > emerge --sync ( approx 10 minutes, paradise cable is nice )
> > emerge vlc ( or xine, or mplayer, or ogle, or kaffeine )
> > Cook and eat dinner.
> > Watch film.
> >
> > Do we need another Gentoo mini-InstallFest?

-- 
Sincerely etc.,
Christopher Sawtell

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