Nick Rout wrote:
On Fri, 2005-01-21 at 15:05 +1300, Rik Tindall wrote:This could well have been the issue, thanks Nick. Although in my case there was no LAN or other gateway set up or involved; just dialup on a standalone box. The way the wizard behaved - by refusing to enable both the onboard modem & the NIC simultaneously - made it look like a hardware setup clash. But perhaps it was assignment of a default route to one or both that caused the dummy to be spat. I can go back and check again one day.
just don't ask them to run the modem at the same time as yourHell! Do I miss those MDK wizards!
network card.. ;-)
We should take a poll as to how many people struck/overcame it.HA! Did you fall for that too ! :-))
Mine _may_ have been an IRQ clash after an RPM driver download for my PC-Tel onboard modem (didn't know much how to check back then).
Solution: External + RedHat9.
(or + SuSE or Ubuntu).
IIRC from the thread at the time it was a problem with setting the
default route. If you had a default route pointing somewhere on the LAN
(probably an existing internet gateway) then pppd would not set another
one on ppp0.
When running through the MDK network wizard frames (from memory, although I have the same question of SuSE now), if one assigns an IP - say, 192.168.1.254 - to the dialup box, and one then is asked what the default route is, I have been inputting "192.168.1.254" again. Is this correct? I had assumed (vainly, it seems) that this action would later lead to Internet sharing via this default route. Further steps are usually required for Internet sharing to be enabled.
This must have been a different (newbie) thread or experience we're recalling; please see above.And why you would want to change default routes in that way is a little beyond me. I know there may be times when it is wanted or needed, but it seems to me in most cases:
1. if you have a default route on the LAN it is because you have an active internet connection via the LAN and its sensible to assume you don't want/need another one
2. if you don't have an active internet connection on the LAN it shouldn't have a default route set to the LAN, only a route to the LAN sub-net. Then pppd should set a default route on connection.
Mostly the direction of the current late-thread points up a clear conceptual and language gulf:
1. Newbie to Harvey Norman: "I want a PC (Internet appliance) to put my home network online."
2. Newbie to LUG: "I want a router/firewall box to put my home network (safely) online."
The route from level 1 to level 2 is a lot more complicated and involved than we seem to be assuming onlist. Sufficient knowledge does not exist out there, in general.
Thanks,
Rik
