On Wed, February 2, 2005 9:53 am, Carl Cerecke said:
> Steve Holdoway wrote:
>
>> Err...
>>
>> 1. Support
>
> goodwill of programmer, and community of users
>
>> 2. Maintenance
>
> goodwill of programmer
>
>> 3. Development
>
> Well, the initial programmer did the development anyway, out of his own
> goodwill.
>
>> For a start.
>>
>> Also, even if you don't see the distribution costs, somebody has to pay
>> for the bandwidth. And the project administration.
>
> sourceforge.
Primarily paid for by a) VA Software and b) Sourceforge.com
>
>> It takes a huge amount of effort to get an open source project off the
>> ground. Trust me, I'm in the middle of it ( and I'm just doing the
>> technical side ).
>
> yes. Witness the multitude of withered projects on sourecforge.
>
>> Why should all this be done for free - if it takes 60 hours / week of
>> your
>> time, why shouldn't it be possible to make a living out of it - OSS or
>> not?
>
> Paying somebody to write free software doesn't necessarily make the
> software any less free (gratis or libre). There are just not many people
> around who will pay you or I to work on our pet project. I would love to
> write OSS, but I have a family to feed and spend time with.
OSS is not about 'your pet project'. It's about a completely different
development model.
>
>> OSS != proprietary. That's all.
>
> Maybe.
>
> Some of my answers probably sound a bit trite, perhaps. But in many
> (well enough) cases, it works. We see (and use) the results of it every
> day.
Well, yes they do. Do you think all the people who write open office / kde
/ solaris do it in their spare time, for free?
>
> Cheers,
> Carl.
>

I think you have an outdated idea of that OSS is really about. I suggest
that you look at the sugar crm project on sourceforge, and see how one can
be successful.

Steve

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Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.

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