Christopher Sawtell wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2005 16:30, Steve Holdoway wrote:


Chris,

The only comment I made that was relevant to your list was your
ommission of Java. Whislt I heartily applaud that approach, I don't
really feel that it is a level headed thing to do.


I merely forgot it, I suspect that's because I don't consider it to be a "scripting language". That said, I'll readily agree that it's probably quite a good way of getting way of getting reliable code produced in the commercial setting.

Whether or not CLUGers would find a talk on Java sufficiently interesting to induce them to forsake the warmth of their home fire-sides in the middle of Winter is, I suppose, a matter for discussion.


I'll be in shock, landing as I do from the UK on  the Sunday before (:



What I did and do object to is the taking of your list out of context as
Martin did.


All he did was to put it in some sort of order as he saw it, and adding a few minor comments. I have no problem with him doing that.

As you can probably guess, I disagree with that statement.



If you really think you can stand my appalling presentational skills,
I'd be happy to oblige.


I have not heard you speak in public, so I can't comment.



Perm any of C, Bourne shell and/or PHP. 2 of which I'm pretty competent in, since they've just come of age in my
hands. PHP only about 3 years worth. Let me know what you want.



Personally, I'd find a talk exposing some of the more esoteric corners of the Bourne shell interesting. Particularly so if combined with an explanation of the bash enhancements.


Well, being a great believer in KISS, I'm not the person to ask.

A PHP demo would also be interesting, particularly if you could demonstrate that the manifold insecurities demonstrated in the past have been fixed.


The last major security problem that know of in php was the problem with file uploads, which was years ago... I just checked with CIRC and it was in Feb, 2002.

Now that doesn't include those brought on by poor scripting, of which there are plenty ( like phpBB only a couple of months ago ). But pointing the finger at the programming language in these cases is rather unfair.

Steve

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