Quoting John Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, Wesley Parish wrote:
> 
> > http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/
> 
> > Assembler (s)hell was born as a silly joke,
> 
> I thought that was what those early non-symbolic debuggers were. 

A silly joke?  Probably.

In
> fact, 
> I see it still exists in Win2k Click Start->Run...debug

I had a good long think about it last night, after finding the site and copying
the files.

It's _not_ _quite_ the same thing as a native Linux JCL, DCL or cmd.exe, let
alone a CPMesque COMMAND.COM.

It should make a very good teaching tool - an interpreter for ASM, for those who
are scared of Assembler.

And if it's small enough, and fast enough, it should fit the embedded sphere
quite nicely.
> 
> BTW, that web site is a gem. A reality interesting character.
> 
> His approach to security misses a touch of reality. Ok, so I grew up in
> a 
> ugly country, but all that fiddly sniffing of data from LED's and 
> deniable codes he does seems pretty futile.

I had a look at the piece de resistance - his paper on strange attractors and
randomness in TCP/IP. http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/newtcp/ He is right -
predictability has always been a bugbear of security.
> 
> Most Spooks are just itching for an excuse to try out their rubber hose
> 
> code breaking techniques.

True enough.
> 
> 
> John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639
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> 
> Carter's Clarification of Murphy's Law.
> 
> "Things only ever go right so that they may go more spectacularly wrong
> later."
> 
> From this principle, all of life and physics may be deduced.
>  
Wesley Parish


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"Brim the tinfall with mirthful bands" 
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I from the spicy that day was overcasked mockingly - it's a symbol of the 
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