Quoting Adrian Mageanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
 
> On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 17:32 +1300, Christopher Sawtell wrote: 
> > On Thursday 16 March 2006 16:04, Roy Britten wrote: 
> > > On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 15:54 +1300, Don Gould wrote: 
> > > > Is there any kind of gui tools that 
> > > > you know of for postgres? 
> > > 
> > > pgAdmin III http://www.pgadmin.org/ 
> >  
> > Also you could use the sql:// protocol in Konqueror. 
> >  
> > imho using these click and point gui tools is a somewhat hazardous  
> > exercise, because they don't, as a general rule, conveniently save a 
> .sql  
> > source code file from which you can rebuild the database from 
> scratch. 
>  
> In my experience, depending on the scope of the exercise, GUI tools are 
> always useful. They are productivity tools. You want to finish your 
> work 
> and give results as quickly as possible no matter if you are a database 
> developer, admin or analyst. 
>  
> They are also good learning tools. 
 
Just my two cents worth - I did a lot of database learning courtesy of Gupta 
and their SQLWindows.  It was a "pretty-picture generator", but it also 
connected to servers.  And it was more robust than MS Windows. 
 
But then, I also got CJ Date's "An Introduction to Database Systems"; and if 
anything cures one of addiction to pretty picture generators, that book is it.  
Thoroughly recommended for getting your head around relational database system 
concepts. 
 
Wesley Parish 
>  
> You may not want every bit of work you've done to be saved. Only the 
> end 
> result matters when you're satisfied that you created something useful 
> worth re-using later. 
>  
> Then you want to script the database, the scripts to initialise default 
> values in different tables, administration, analysis and discovery 
> scripts. And a backup eventually with your test data and parameters. 
>  
> Here almost all GUI tools offer scripting options to help with this. At 
> the end of the day they are only script generators with nice colored 
> pictures. 
>  
> Cheers, 
> Adrian 
>  
>   
 
 
 
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