On Tuesday 04 April 2006 08:52, yuri wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> First of all, a big thanks to Robert for the use of his facilities,
> and to Chris and Nick for their gentoo guruhood, and others who were
> there who all offered useful tips top this gentoo n00b.
Thanks.
> The Good:
[ ... ]
> The Bad:
> * USB mouse only works if it is plugged in _after_ gentoo has booted.
> If I boot with the mouse plugged in I have to unplug, plug back in,
> and it goes straight away. Minor annoyance, but most n00bs wouldn't
> think of just unplugging and plugging back in, so could've been I show
> stopper for n00bs.
Setting up USB devices while they are connected is called Coldplugging.
This is normally done as part of the boot-up process. Fairly obviously this
is not happening (correctly) for your USB mouse. You might care to examine
the logs and also watch the messages which flow up the screen while
booting. Also test that the file /etc/init.d/coldplug exists. If it's not
there then emerging and configuring this
* sys-apps/coldplug
Available versions: 20040920
Installed: 20040920
Homepage: http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net
Description: coldplug init.d program to load modules at
bootime
will almost certainly fix the problem.
> The Ugly:
> * When booting, a whole lot of messages scroll past for about 15~20
> seconds complaining that it can't remove certain files - "operation
> not permitted".
> I suspect this is part of a clean-up operation. If I could find the
> script that's doing this, I could knock it on the head.
You need to direct the error output from these operations to /dev/null
rather than not doing them. The boot-up process is done by a shell script
called /sbin/rc and scripts called therefrom. You might care to examine it
and try to work out what's happening. You could probably get a big hint
from the messages on the screen, because they will have the name of the
file being executed somewhere in that line. You can stop the scrolling by
pressing the ScreenLock key. ( or possibly CTRL-S, CTRL-Q to get going
again )
> Not a show stopper, but also not a good look if I want to demo gentoo
> to a potential convert, hence I've categorised it under "ugly".
I thought that this was 'somewhat odd and rather undesirable' too.
> Yuri de Groot
> Recent Gentoo convert
I'd just like to mention that after a fair amount of agonising we decided
to use the relatively new Kororaa derivative of Gentoo [1] mainly because
the installation seemed both simpler and quicker than the 'Official'
Gentoo. We also think that having the development team in more or less the
same time zone and using a very similar language is a very real benefit.
Only time will tell us whether we made the correct decision.
[1] http://kororaa.org/
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CS
