Quoting Reg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
 
> You forgot to mention the makeup that makes them look pale :-) 
 
True.  As far as the term "Goth" goes, it appears to be derived from "Gothic" 
used to describe a sort of gloomy horror genre popular during the nineteenth 
century, which produced "Einstein's Monster" among other more forgettable 
works... 
 
Michael Moorcock made the whole subculture a figure of fun in the form of 
"Dancers at the End of Time"'s Werther de Goethe, who declared himself to 
Elric of Melnibone thus: 
"You are very welcome here," said Werther de Goethe.  "I cannot tell you how 
glad I am to meet one as essentially morbid and self-pitying as myself!" 
 
Of course, the actual Goths, the tribe/s that erupted from Gotland into the 
otherwise comfortable and hopelessly corrupt Roman Empire during the fourth 
century - apart from creating, together with their distant Burgundian and 
Langobardian kin, some tales of the horror deriving from mixed loyalties and 
obligations and unbridled lust for power - they seem to have been as 
cheerfully sane as anybody else. 
 
But that is of course OffTopic.  Now we return to our customary 
programme ... ;) 
 
Wesley Parish 
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"Sharpened hands are happy hands. 
"Brim the tinfall with mirthful bands"  
- A Deepness in the Sky, Vernor Vinge 
 
"I me.  Shape middled me.  I would come out into hot!"  
I from the spicy that day was overcasked mockingly - it's a symbol of the  
other horizon. - emacs : meta x dissociated-press 

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