About fifteen years ago when NT was just emerging on the back of DEC
collapse I said at a geeks' conference: M$ has still a long way to go
until becomes a unix system.

Although is getting closer by the year, it is still true.

Adrian


On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 08:47 +1200, Steve Brorens wrote:
> Some interesting developments on 'the other side'...
> 
> POWERSHELL (aka Monad, MSH) - See
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_PowerShell for an intro. Very
> strong *nix flavour, and Exchange12 administration GUI's will be built
> upon this - ie the CLI comes first, and the GUI sits on top in classic
> *nix fashion. Beta versions can be downloaded and played with now - it
> won't be shipped for a while yet (it's not in Vista)  
> 
> UNIX IN WINDOWS - Windows Server 2003 now ships with a full Unix
> sub-system, including gcc and tons of other GNU and GPL stuff:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/R2/unixcomponents/webinstall.
> mspx#EKB
> 
> LINUX LAB -
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2005/aug05/08-10OpenSourceLa
> b.mspx 
> 
> PORT25 - http://port25.technet.com "...people, insights, and analysis
> from the Microsoft Open Source Software Lab" 
> 
> LINUX CONFERENCES - 'Softie giving a keynote at Linuxworld -
> http://www.idgworldexpo.com/download/bh.mp3
> 
> WINDOWLESS WINDOWS - The next version of Windows Server (Longhorn) will
> have a GUI-less version, aimed at the same people who run their *nix
> systems X11-less, called "Server Core" see:
> http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en
> -us/Srvcore/srvcore/portal.asp
> 
> 
> So, quite different approach from the rants and antagonism of the past.
> My reading is that they've now got lots people on board with strong *nix
> backgrounds and are pushing really hard to capture the big Unix sites,
> before they all go Linux. Most of this stuff is quite foreign to the
> normal Windows user/administrator, but potentially re-assuring to Unix
> admins. 
> 
>  - steve
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