On Mon, 22 May 2006 09:04:00 +1200
Stephen Irons wrote:

> I put ordinary cable in black 13mm PVC tube used for garden irrigation
> systems. It has been buried for 6 years or so, and cost next to nothing,
> though you could always claim it is a gardening expense.
> 
> It is VERY difficult to pull the cable through the tube if there are
> bends in the run. Preferably lay the whole thing out straight on the
> lawn or down the road. Use a vacuum cleaner to suck a length of cotton
> or string through the tube, then use that to pull a fishing line or
> weed-eater cord through.

and when you pull the final run of cable through, pull a string through
with it so that if the cable turns to custard or you want a second cable you 
can use the string to pull another one through.

> 
> Make sure that the ends of the tube are protected from the rain or the
> whole run will fill up with water and you have wasted your time.
> 
> Stephen
> 
> 
> Reg wrote:
> > Speaking of cables, I am planning to run a 35 m Cat 5 enhanced UTP patch
> > network cable from my house to an outside studio. I plan to go through the
> > floor under the house, out an air vent and then underground to the studio. 
> >
> > Questions: 
> > How durable is this cable?  Is it subject to problems from moisture? I am
> > wondering whether to just dig a deep trench and bury it as I did when I ran
> > a phone cable (which was designed for outside and has silicon inside it)
> > there or whether to feed the underground section through a pvc pipe?  
> >
> >
> > Kind Regards
> > Reg
> >
> >   
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Craig FALCONER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Friday, 19 May 2006 8:53 a.m.
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: RE: Who donated that dunger? Anyone for a WiFry?
> >>
> >> The limits on USB are the same for 1.1 as 2.0 afaik
> >>
> >> No more than 5 metres of unboosted cable.  (I have a mouse with a 6 foot
> >>     
> > cord on the end of a 5 metre extension and it works on a USB2
> >   
> >> port but not a
> >> USB1 port)
> >>
> >> Maximum total length is 25 metres with active signal boosters every 5
> >> metres.   (probably to do with bit times and all that coax ethernet timing
> >> stuff from last century.)
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> C. Falconer
> >> http://www.avonside.school.nz/
> >> http://criggie.dyndns.org/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Andrew Errington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Thursday, 18 May 2006 5:47 p.m.
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: Who donated that dunger? Anyone for a WiFry?
> >>
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> I expect that you could make a USB cable as long as you like, but the
> >> signals have a high clock rate so they would degrade past a certain point
> >> (that and the voltage drop). 5m might be an arbitrary limit set by the USB
> >> specification, but it is not unreasonable, and guaranteed to work.
> >>
> >>
> >>     
> >
> >
> >   
> 
> 
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