Well its most definitely not in my /24

My home IP is 203.97.119.201 so anything outside of 203.97.119 should be
charged.  Looks like their upstream router allows layer2 (arp etc) through
without charging, and probably broadcast layer 3 (dhcp/bootp)

Interestingly, there are dhcp answers being handed out on the cable, by
172.20.18.55




-----Original Message-----
From: Volker Kuhlmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 24 May 2006 9:57 p.m.
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Telstra cable usage downloader


> This traffic is not accounted for as part of your traffic cap.

My guess is that traffic from the same subnet as your own is not being
charged, as otherwise the pile of redmond-technology-originating tcp and udp
crap would certainly be chargable if it came from, say, Australia.

# tcpdump -i fxp1 host not criggie.dyndns.org

tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
listening on fxp1, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes
08:53:12.775944 arp who-has 0.0.0.0 tell 203-97-126-158.cable.telstraclear.net
08:53:12.776864 arp who-has 203-97-119-1.cable.telstraclear.net 
(00:90:1a:a0:04:c7 (oui Unknown)) tell 203-97-119-41.cable.telstraclear.net
08:53:12.783112 arp who-has 0.0.0.0 tell 203-97-126-158.cable.telstraclear.net
08:53:12.789271 arp who-has 0.0.0.0 tell 203-97-126-158.cable.telstraclear.net
08:53:12.795634 arp who-has 0.0.0.0 tell 203-97-126-158.cable.telstraclear.net
08:53:12.796951 arp who-has 203-79-75-31.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-13.bertha.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.798578 arp who-has 203-97-113-1.cable.telstraclear.net 
(00:90:1a:a0:04:c7 (oui Unknown)) tell 203-97-113-105.cable.telstraclear.net
08:53:12.799196 IP 203-97-127-71.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-127-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROA
DCAST
08:53:12.803649 arp who-has 0.0.0.0 tell 203-97-126-158.cable.telstraclear.net
08:53:12.808771 arp who-has 0.0.0.0 tell 203-97-126-158.cable.telstraclear.net
08:53:12.814765 arp who-has 203-97-114-1.cable.telstraclear.net 
(00:90:1a:a0:04:c7 (oui Unknown)) tell 203-97-114-212.cable.telstraclear.net
08:53:12.817292 arp who-has 0.0.0.0 tell 203-97-126-158.cable.telstraclear.net
08:53:12.817620 arp who-has 202-0-37-5.cable.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.817963 arp who-has 202-0-37-7.cable.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.820905 arp who-has 202-0-37-11.cable.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.821249 arp who-has 202-0-37-21.cable.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.821593 arp who-has 202-0-37-29.cable.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.821912 arp who-has 202-0-37-33.cable.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.822229 arp who-has 0.0.0.0 tell 203-97-126-158.cable.telstraclear.net
08:53:12.824033 arp who-has 202-0-37-40.cable.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.824375 arp who-has 202-0-37-42.cable.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.824719 arp who-has 202-0-37-43.cable.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.826549 arp who-has 202-0-37-46.cable.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.827296 arp who-has 202-0-37-47.cable.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.827636 arp who-has 202-0-37-48.cable.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.829155 arp who-has 202-0-37-49.cable.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.829495 arp who-has 202-0-37-52.cable.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.830192 arp who-has 0.0.0.0 tell 203-97-126-158.cable.telstraclear.net
08:53:12.830532 arp who-has 202-0-37-53.cable.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.830983 arp who-has fe7-4-515-2.bertha.paradise.net.nz 
(00:90:1a:a0:04:c7 (oui Unknown)) tell 203-79-122-38.cable.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.831300 arp who-has 202-0-37-56.cable.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.832376 arp who-has 202-0-37-74.cable.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.833266 arp who-has 202-0-37-96.cable.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.834077 arp who-has 202-0-37-119.cable.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz
08:53:12.835512 arp who-has 202-0-37-136.cable.paradise.net.nz tell 
fe7-4-515-1.bertha.paradise.net.nz
..............


# tcpdump -i fxp1 host not criggie.dyndns.org and not arp

tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
listening on fxp1, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes
08:56:48.061882 IP 203-97-127-71.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-127-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROADCAST
08:56:48.326659 IP 172.20.18.55.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: BOOTP/DHCP, 
Reply, length: 304
08:56:48.446499 IP 172.20.18.55.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: BOOTP/DHCP, 
Reply, length: 304
08:56:48.836567 IP 203-97-127-71.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-127-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROADCAST
08:56:49.221878 IP 172.20.18.55.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: BOOTP/DHCP, 
Reply, length: 304
08:56:49.588595 IP 203-97-127-71.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-127-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROADCAST
08:56:49.656237 IP 203-97-127-71.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-dgm > 
203-97-127-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP PACKET(138)
08:56:51.025610 IP 172.20.18.55.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: BOOTP/DHCP, 
Reply, length: 304
08:56:51.694829 IP 203-97-117-27.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-dgm > 
203-97-117-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP PACKET(138)
08:56:51.695201 IP 203-97-117-27.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-117-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROADCAST
08:56:52.084871 IP 172.20.18.55.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: BOOTP/DHCP, 
Reply, length: 304
08:56:52.447704 IP 203-97-117-27.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-117-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROADCAST
08:56:53.194460 IP 203-97-117-27.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-117-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROADCAST
08:56:54.662289 IP 172.20.18.55.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: BOOTP/DHCP, 
Reply, length: 304
08:56:54.840087 IP 172.20.18.55.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: BOOTP/DHCP, 
Reply, length: 304
08:56:55.948388 IP 203-97-117-27.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-dgm > 
203-97-117-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP PACKET(138)
08:56:55.948808 IP 203-97-117-27.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-117-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROADCAST
08:56:56.089420 IP 172.20.18.55.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: BOOTP/DHCP, 
Reply, length: 304
08:56:56.334361 IP 172.20.18.55.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: BOOTP/DHCP, 
Reply, length: 304
08:56:56.444905 IP 172.20.18.55.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: BOOTP/DHCP, 
Reply, length: 304
08:56:56.697909 IP 203-97-117-27.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-117-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROADCAST
08:56:57.447438 IP 203-97-117-27.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-117-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROADCAST
08:56:58.435994 IP 203-97-115-70.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-dgm > 
203-97-115-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP PACKET(138)
08:56:59.491158 IP 203-97-119-112.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-dgm > 
203-97-119-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP PACKET(138)
08:56:59.866237 IP 172.20.18.55.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: BOOTP/DHCP, 
Reply, length: 304
08:57:00.195470 IP 203-97-117-27.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-dgm > 
203-97-117-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP PACKET(138)
08:57:00.195875 IP 203-97-117-27.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-117-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROADCAST
08:57:00.944216 IP 203-97-117-27.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-117-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROADCAST
08:57:00.948452 IP 172.20.18.55.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: BOOTP/DHCP, 
Reply, length: 304
08:57:01.036524 IP 172.20.18.55.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: BOOTP/DHCP, 
Reply, length: 304
08:57:01.694739 IP 203-97-117-27.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-117-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROADCAST
08:57:02.053045 IP 172.20.18.55.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: BOOTP/DHCP, 
Reply, length: 304
08:57:02.101215 IP 172.20.18.55.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: BOOTP/DHCP, 
Reply, length: 304
08:57:02.443815 IP 203-97-127-71.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-127-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROADCAST
08:57:02.451153 IP 203-97-127-71.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-127-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROADCAST
08:57:03.187392 IP 203-97-127-71.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-127-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROADCAST
08:57:03.193656 IP 203-97-127-71.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-127-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROADCAST
08:57:03.937103 IP 203-97-127-71.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-127-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROADCAST
08:57:03.943534 IP 203-97-127-71.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-127-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROADCAST
08:57:04.447712 IP 203-97-117-27.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-dgm > 
203-97-117-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP PACKET(138)
08:57:04.688233 IP 203-97-127-71.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-127-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROADCAST
08:57:05.038769 IP 172.20.18.55.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: BOOTP/DHCP, 
Reply, length: 304
08:57:05.232566 IP 172.20.18.55.bootps > 255.255.255.255.bootpc: BOOTP/DHCP, 
Reply, length: 304
08:57:05.437743 IP 203-97-127-71.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns > 
203-97-127-255.cable.telstraclear.net.netbios-ns: NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; 
REQUEST; BROADCAST
^C
44 packets captured
2890 packets received by filter
0 packets dropped by kernel
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