[it would help if you left an empty line around your textual
contributions]

> > HTML was designed as simple markup while leaving the exact rendering to
> > the browser. The number of spacer.gifs everywhere shows that web
> > developers fail to grasp this concept.

> Sorry, you're way out of date. Sure some dinosaurs still use these,   
> the rest use css. Try /. for an example ( just been redesigned ), or  
> digg, or a million or so others.

You're in the wrong universe - open source related websites have a clue.

I have looked up a lot of product-related websites and sites related to
photography lately, and the number of companies with websites designed
to p*ss off customers is truely astonishing. Plenty of spacer.gifs
there.

> The web is a media-rich environment. Why shouldn't be?

True enough. Two problems: no useful standards (or they don't go all the
way to the user, which severely reduces their usefulness), and the fact
that there is often only medIUM, but no longer any message. Or put
colloquially, too many w***rs, not enough craftspeople. Don't get me
wrong: there are true craftspeople out there. They tend to work in open
source, or at google (but not amazon or ebay, both diabolical).

I agree with you that it should be possible to specify a font and having
better layout control would be nice - CSS is a good thing. Works for me,
and I don't care myself about the 90% IE Losers :)

> 'control' the look and feel of a website, which helps. A commercial
> website is an extension of the company, and should be branded as such.
> If it looks like sh*t, then it's not going to promote the company.

There's looks, and there's functionality. Pity commercial companies tend
to stop after the first. My low opinion of the average designer stays
until proven otherwise. Most can do a w***, few can combine that with
function. None have a clue of user security. Yes that's a
generalisation, but it's accurate as far as I can see.

Volker

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