Rik: no-one likes a good fight more than I, although the KDE-GNOME things is really old now. But a good fight requires clear communication.
I've known you a long time, and you know that I admire your efforts to promote FOSS (or FLOSS, or OSS or whatever your preferred acronym is today). I've helped you with three Software Freedom Days in the past, and sponsored them with real money. I know that you have very carefully thought through positions on many things: OSS, politics, economics to name but three. I'd be interested to hear more about your position, and the thinking that has lead to it. Over a cup of coffee, I can usually follow your reasoning, although I don't always agree. But on this list, your contributions are opaque, cryptic, and (come across anyway) as unreasoned. That's partly due to the limitations of this medium, partly due to the way that you use it Can I ask you Rik, to help me if no-one else, to - avoid cryptic remarks and in-jokes. Say what you have to say in clear English. - state your position clearly - use more words rather than fewer. Hints don't work! - ignore conspiracy theories, even involving Ballmer - accept that there will always be disagreements and people will always make different choices, because that's what this movement is all about - write in complete sentences, with reasonably standard grammatical constructs. I am sure that your views on KDE-GNOME, Qt licensing, Ubuntu vs any other distro, SuSE/RedHat are passionately held and well reasoned, even if not clearly written down. But this stuff is old hat here, and everyone has come to their conclusions. Let's move on. And to pre-empt another hobby-horse of several people here: yes, I'm sending this from a Windows box. That's what I use at work, for various reasons. I teach Windows. Unlike most, I also teach Linux. At home I use FC6, having moved very recently from SUSE. I may move back to openSUSE in the future. But I'll keep my own counsel on why. Slainte Gordon ----------------- Gordon Findlay, Academic IT Manager, Avonmore Tertiary Academy ph 0 3 9772692 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The cares of tomorrow can wait until this day is done. -----Original Message----- From: Rik Tindall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 11/24/2006 2:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [was Slax filesystem] Qt Robert Fisher wrote: > On Thursday 23 November 2006 11:06 am, Rik Tindall wrote: >> Nick Rout wrote: > >>> I haven't seen an out and out slugfest between gnome adherents and kde >>> >>> adherents for years now. In fact you are the only person I have seen who >>> >>> discusses it with such antagonism. >> It is a mistake to personalise this Nick, because the finger you point >> is at a mirror. >> > Actually I agree with Nick on this one. > > Rob Yes, I heard you the first time Rob - the (AGM) night that Nick and the rest of the 'seven-month-recess' klug komiti got sacked. Since then I've learnt of your part in the koup that replaced the server-side (RedHat) focus in the klub with MandraKe (for Mugs) - just before I came along. It all makes better sense now. Just a bit of fun tho :-) 'sport & competition' -- Rik
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