On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:17:03 +1300
John Rye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:00:50 +1300
> Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Isn't this cause for a quick 'how to setup remote access using no-ip or 
> > similar, and get IM up and running at the same time' article on the wiki? 
> > That way, no end of us could fix this in our coffee break, and tell them 
> > what's happening ( well, once X is working! )??
> > 
> > Steve
> 
> No Steve it's not that simple in my view. How can anyone do that
> if he cannot get his machine into a state where it's possible to set up
> remote access?
> 
> </rant-mode>
> 
> Phil posted at request for help at 13.43 on the 20th.
> 
> Nothing showed on the list until I posted at 17.22 on the 20th having
> spent 2 hours on the phone from New Plymouth.
> 
> I am familiar with Mandrake/Mandriva (since 1999) and I could not
> establish the source of his problem from here which is why I posted
> requesting that a local guru contact the OP and arrange to _*LOOK*_ at
> what his problem was. 
> 
> The tooing and froing we've seen today is exactly why linux "geeks" get
> the ELITIST label.
> 
> Dammit guys, Phil asked for someone to contact him after he had spent
> some time trying to solve the problem. I did some 2 hours after Phil
> had posted, I couldn't solve it from here because of communication
> difficulties.
> 
> All it needed was the elusive 'someone' to extract his bloody finger
> and poke 7 bloody digits, which where posted in the first post, into a
> dial pad and speak to the fellow.
> 
> Come On!! Is it any bloody wonder M$ has us by the balls when it comes
> to encouraging new or inexperienced users, especially those who have
> difficulty communicating!
> 
> </rant-mode>
> 
> John

Welcome to the list John,

I note with interest that my suggestions as to how to make sure that there are 
alternative (potential) solutions to this kind of problem documented are plain 
not good enough for you. That's a shame, as I would have had a coffee break 
free to try and fix this. After all, hand crafting an x config file is a simple 
task if you can get on the machine. The output from lspci, and reading the 
front/back of the monitor is all the input you need, whatever the flavour of 
linux you prefer. 

Unfortunately, I don't have the time to drive into town, living somewhat 
outside the city. I also know no Mandriva. I can, however, fix this problem. 
I'm still working, and have been since 5:45 am, same as the rest of this week, 
just so I can take my first holiday in 4 years.

I'm not elitist - I don't really think that anyone who's migrated to this 
country really is. But I am p*ssed off by your comments.

I see that you've spent a while lurking, got a feel of the tone of the list, 
and posted accordingly as per good nettiquette. What label should we be placing 
on you after your weeksworth of postings?


Steve

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