On Wed 28 Feb 2007 12:53:19 NZDT +1300, Kent Fredric wrote:

Thanks Kent.

> Computer killed 2 Samsungs ( disk useless, but still ran, but very
> slow, disk kept stopping responding randomly ), and a Western digital

You can't do statistics on a sample of 2.

Btw smartmontools will tell you what the disk thinks the damage is.

I've had 2 Samsungs die within 8 months (the one I bought, and the
replacement), although this particular model was reported by people with
larger sample sizes as being very reliable. I bought a Samsung again
because I like them (quiet, not hot-running).

> me. Toms Hardware recently did a review on a bunch of -new- psu's and
> found their long-term stress tollerance below tollerable on many
> models,

Entirely plausible!

> and did write in the section that sometimes they have
> computers which seem to have all sorts of werid problems which the
> only solution that works is replacement of PSU.

This is an entirely different topic: microchips are specified for a
nominal voltage plus/minus tolerance, e.g. 5V +-5%, at all times.
Operation outside of this tolerance can lead to malfunction and/or
permanent damage. In practice, undervoltage won't cause damage
(overvoltage will), but will cause the chip to not work properly. So if
you have a lousy power supply which can't regulate to within specified
limits, this includes times when disks spin up or your CPU load goes 0
to 100%, then the resulting unreliable operation is to be expected.

Volker

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