The split sounds sensible.

You could fill a talk with the different places that different distros
(and different versions of different distros) put the config files, the
docroot and so on.

Worthy of investigation is gentoo's system of handling virtual hosts, with
a defined set of commands applicable to any web based suite, to
automatically install to various virtual host situations.


On Thu, July 12, 2007 11:07 am, Brett Davidson wrote:
> Hehe. mod_rewrite is a topic in and of itself... and pointless without a
> good working knowledge of regular expression handling.
>
> Yes. I'm sure I could fill up the talk with outlining just the location
> and permissions of Apache Configuration files. It also doesn't help that
> the conf directories (and their contents) change markedly between
> different versions of Apache (let alone different distros) either. :-(
>
> If you think it worth it, I could split the talk into two; a basic
> Apache configuration chat and a then more complete chat outlining
> integration with MySQL/PHP/Ruby/etc.
> That would then permit time for the comments to/from the audience that
> always happen when one presents only their own preferred methods to do
> something. :-)
> It seems that SSL/Certificates (a whole new level in which to get things
> wrong) and reverse-proxies would be topics worth dicscussing.
>
> Would a split like this be more useful to people?
>
> Brett.
>
> John Carter wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007, Brett Davidson wrote:
>>
>>> Please bear in mind that there is a limit to how much depth one can
>>> go into in a single night and that I am not the complete repository
>>> of all Apache knowledge so I'm trying to get some feedback on what
>>> you guys/gals want to know!
>>
>> I'll admit the bit of the Apache config manual's that made most sense
>> to me is the quotes in the mod_rewrite manual...
>>
>> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/rewrite/
>>
>>
>>     ``The great thing about mod_rewrite is it gives you all the
>>     configurability and flexibility of Sendmail. The downside to
>>     mod_rewrite is that it gives you all the configurability and
>>     flexibility of Sendmail.''
>>
>>     -- Brian Behlendorf
>>     Apache Group
>>
>>     `` Despite the tons of examples and docs, mod_rewrite is
>>     voodoo. Damned cool voodoo, but still voodoo.''
>>
>>     -- Brian Moore
>>     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> I've been configuring Apache since some of the earliest versions...
>>
>> And with each new version of each new distro I'm impressed by the
>> number of new ways and the number of new levels that things can get
>> screwed up....
>>
>> Just talking about the orthogonal levels at which things can get
>> screwed up...
>>  * Cabling & Connectors
>>  * Hardware
>>  * IP and Routing
>>  * firewall
>>  * Network startup
>>  * Server startups
>>  * File system mounts, directory and file permissions (from the
>> perspective of the httpd user).
>>  * Apache config
>>  * Apache config directory permissions.
>>  * Apache client allow deny permissions.
>>  * Dbase access authentication (username/password & client/host).
>>  * Dbase itself
>>  * Cgi scripts going screwy.
>>  * ...
>>
>> All doable and I've done it many times....
>>
>> I'm just always impressed at how many different levels it can go
>> cockeye.
>>
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