On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:35:08 +1300
Roger Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> While I should wait till returning to work on Monday, this is a thread 
> of great relevance to either my current work and home setup or where I 
> intend taking it - and in some cases learning how!  I have been very 
> interested in Chris and Steve's replies and as time allows over coming 
> weeks will be asking a question or 3 on the list!
> 
> At work we have a similar number of users to John though all windows 
> users (apart from me).  I don't currently have a complete set of answers 
> to what can be accomplished on SBS, but have made a start.  This is what 
> I have so far. 
> 
> I have an ipcop firewall box, just a standard install plus the snort IDS 
> added.  It just works. 
Sounds about right. I have one installation with an adsl router that dumps all 
traffic to the IPCop box to filter it, and a similar sort of thing at home, but 
with the luxury of a Cisco PIX ( thanks for fixing it Volker! ) firewall which 
came in as payment for decomissioning a site in a previous life.
> 
> I have another box running linux functioning as both a file server and 
> running vmware server. Yes, I know this isn't ideal and they should be 
> separate boxes but with the limited resources available to me (like many 
> small businesses) is all I can do.  It works. 
I do a similar thing. My 'infrastructure' server runs database services, and 
file shares, and also vmware clients running my mail and web servers ( 
primarily - I also play with an Oracle cluster using vmware too ).
> 
> 3 hard drives in this box, one for the OS, the other 2 set up as raid1, 
> created 2 partitions for data and backups, then samba and a few chown + 
> chmod commands is all I needed.  Cron runs bash scripts each night for 
> backups which also copy to another machine.  Same script also burns some 
> backups to DVD.  The only user data I don't currently have on this 
> server are some large Outlook pst files - given their size I prefer to 
> have them on the user's local machine.  They are however backed up (with 
> a different script).  Those using Thunderbird for email have those files 
> on the file server. 
Not mirroring your system disk is a bit dodgy. I'd've probably created a single 
raid 5 over all of the disks, then partitioned it up. Booting off a raid disk 
isn't too cumberome any more.
> 
> I have VMWare Server running an XP guest so that (a) can continue to 
> make frequent use of a particular colour printer we have (no linux 
> support for this model) and (b) run the management console for Symantec 
> End Point Protection (is like the big brother to Norton Internet 
> Security).  I could also either use RDP or VMWare Server console to 
> connect to it to use any windows-only software I need to use from time 
> to time. 
> 
> I can actually run a second VM at the same time and have no noticeable 
> (from user's perspective) performance hit - is a 64 bit dual core (I 
> forget the speed) and 4 gig of ram,
vmware's really heavy on memory, as you can't share it between clients. But 
then it's only about $30/gig at the momeent... so not too onerous a cost for a 
small company.
> 
> On my list to do or find out about or learn when the holiday is over:
>  - orange network on the ipcop box for the wireless network.
Orange is usually set up as a dmz, and wireless blue. Also, is your ipcop 
installation up to date - I'm on 1.4.18.
>  - rsync script for off-machine backups of changed files through the day
I find that a sata disk in a caddy is a really simple way of backing up - usb 
can be a bit slow if you're throwing large amounts of data around: firewire is 
better. These full-size external disk thingies ( eg from Western Digital ) seem 
to be good value.

I'm one for simplicity in my backups. I prefer to tar all modified files, and 
dump databases. It makes for a simpler recovery if necessary. I also tend not 
to compress archives on busy machines: it takes a lot of cpu. When in a lan 
environment, it's no big deal ( and free ) to transfer lots of data at 2am. 

If, of course, you're backing up over the internet, then yes, things have to be 
more complex to save bandwidth and money.

>  - postfix / sendmail (I have no idea about specifics at this point) / 
I know I'm in a minority, but having spent 10+ years setting up sendmail, it's 
my choice. Also look into installing malware and spam filters at this level, 
rather than down the line. Most are pretty simple to integrate.
> imap email (and remotely)
I use courier and this works fine for me. Remote access is a bit of a 
challenge: not the server access and reading side of things, but sending emails 
from a remote site will require an extra level of security ( tls or more ) to 
ensure that you're not setting up an open mail relay. 
>  - OpenVPN for remote access
I find that ssh is usually enough, when tied down carefully. Openvpn takes a 
bit more setting up, but has tha added bonus of more reliable connectivity than 
raw ssh alone. I don't use the IPCop openvpn plugin, but pass traffic through 
to the 'infrastructure' server and route from there ( it didn't work when I 
tried it, and it made a real mess of my red interface configuration - although 
I'm sure it's improved now ).
>  - central management of users?
IMO you need a lot of tens of users before this actually becomes worthwhile. 
Unless it's your intention to learn how to do it of course!
> 
> Some of these things I would like to have working at home, and think 
> many others would too.  In fact I may well test one or 2 of these out at 
> home first as it's less of a problem if I totally break something here!
> 
Top of my list would be to modify your raid solution to protect all of your 
data first...
> Cheers,
> Roger
Cheers,

Steve


Steve

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