On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:09:17 +1200
Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed 16 Apr 2008 18:01:11 NZST +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote:
> 
> > I'm trying to get an old Hp system refettled to run for some friends
> > kids. However, the mobo is running a 600MHz cpu, and I've only got
> > 64MB of memory for it. I've got a spare mobo with a pentium on it
> > ( only one, as it's the 24cm square size ), which I want to use.
> > However, it's a non standard psu, and hasn't got the 4 pin extra power
> > connector on it. Is it safe to make up a converter to use the spare
> > disk power supply connector? I've got plenty of old dead psus/disk
> > power splitters I can rob the fittings from...
> 
> Worth a try, but whether it's safe depends on more factors that haven't
> been mentioned yet. Like whether you make a mistake with getting the
> pin-outs right... ;) Errors here tend to let the smoke out. You have
> verified that the 4-pin connector only carries gnd, +5V, +12V? Nothing
> else is on a drive connector.
> 
> The idea should work, although it's not totally optimal because of cable
> lengths and how they run. One potential pitfall I can see is if the PSU
> has more than one regulator circuit for the +5V, then connecting them
> together can severely interfere with the regulation and cause the
> voltage to oscillate, possibly with peaks into dangerous levels (and the
> electronics won't work with that). PSUs for AMD CPUs with a total power
> of (guessing) 350-400W and above have that, to keep the +5V current
> below 20A per regulator. If the total +5V current is below 20A you
> should be fine. If you wanted to make sure, connect an oscilloscope and
> turn the power off fast if it shows an epilectic.
> 
> (The mobo may connect the 4-pin-consector lines with the main connector
> lines.)
> 
> My feeling is you should be fine (but I take no liability). Leave the
> RAM and CPU off and connect it up, turn it on, measure the voltages with
> a multimeter.
> 
> > Steve PS yes, all Volker's comments about software engineers and
> > soldering irons are true in this case, but I reckon even I can manage
> > this!
> 
> *vbg* You should be fine. If you weren't, you wouldn't have asked the
> question as competently.
> 
> -- 
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Just a quick update on this. Yes, I did get it working, and plan a) worked, and 
all the lights stayed on. I was very careful not to use any extra cards to keep 
the power requirements as low as possible.

HOWEVER... it's a really good idea to look at the shape of the board, and where 
the connectors are / size of cpu fan, etc. There's absolutely no way at all 
that the board will fit round the cd player or the psu!

Lesson learned there... 

(:

Steve
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Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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