On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 10:25 +1200, Jim Cheetham wrote:
> Skype is written specifically to benefit the parent company;
> specifically to cope with the case where the end-user doesn't know
> what to do besides just press the green go button.

I don't see why easy of use has to be tied to a parent company.

> SIP is written to be a carrier-grade messaging system, by people who
> like to co-operate with networks and standards.

And this is mutually incompatible with making an easy to use free
product because...?

> > I hate Skype for being non-free, but I have to use it because
> 
> You don't *have* to use it. They can call a PSTN number just as easily
> as they can call a Skype user -- it's the same green button. You don't
> *have* to save *their* money. You're using Skype for *convenience*,
> don't pretend otherwise.

Quite right. I could instead use a different for-fee proprietary network
such as Telecom or Vodafone. But this would cost me more for the same
end effect and so is a dumb idea.

> If you were to use an open protocol, you'd be able to benefit from
> some of the innovation going on. How about, every time Fred calls you
> the call time and duration get logged automatically into your trouble
> ticketing or billing application? You can't do that with Skype
> *unless* Skype themselves decide to add that feature. You can do it
> today even with pure hardware SIP phones, because implementors of Open
> Standards are allowed to innovate independantly.

Yes, and if the SIP stuff had a wrapper that did the Skype-like
autoconfig then a lot more ordinary people (as opposed to just us
technical literati) would actually be able to use it.

> > non-techies can't set up any of the Open alternatives. Why does it have
> > to be like this?
> 
> Ah, now the deeper question -- why isn't Free software easier to use?
> Because most people that are motivated to produce code are not
> motivated by "ease of use". Some are -- Gnome for example. But even
> they are unable to respond quickly when something changes ...

Er, not quite what I meant. What's the technical workings that makes
Skype auto-configurable and how does one go about gluing it into a SIP
auto-configuration wrapper? What needs to change? Who needs to be lent
on?

Vik :v)

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