On Sun, May 31, 2009 12:56, Derek Smithies wrote: > On Sun, 31 May 2009, Andrew Errington wrote: > >> On Sun, May 31, 2009 06:04, Derek Smithies wrote: >> >>> The most surefire way of fixing this? >>> Use skype. >>> Seriously, you can fiddle for hours getting this to work. >>> >> >> Except that Skype is proprietary and closed. SIP is the Right Answer, >> so it's worth persevering. > Yes, you are right in one sense.. > > > Picture yourself in a hotel, far away from home, and keen to ring the > wife and family. A skype call will (well, most often) get through <snip>
Or a "telephone", or a "mobile phone". I hear these are capable of sending "txt msgs" too. > Yes, you can fiddle with sip like phones. However, in my jaundiced > experience, they are filled with gobbledygoodk like words that make them > hard to setup. Look at Barry's problems. He is not a voip developer, but > he is capable enough to do many linux like things. And he had trouble > getting Ekiga to work. Skype, on the other hand, is sufficiently easy to > setup that people with the minimum of computer skills can make voip calls. Or you could use Gizmo, the (proprietary) gateway drug to SIP. Drug here: www.gizmoproject.com (about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gizmo_Project) Using Ekiga discussion: <http://grokbase.com/topic/2006/02/24/ekiga-and-gizmo-project/wGgMcx-duioKMhOEDSZxS840zlM> > It is only on linux that Skype gets hard to setup - mainly cause of the > "Welcome to the jungle phenomenon" talked about on slashdot recently. > Which was (effectively): linux sound is a mess. Hmm. apt-get install skype, and, err, that's it. I have no more problems with software on my Linux systems than I do with Windows. Specks of sawdust and wooden beams come to mind. A
