David,
> I _am_ talking GUI. As I said, Netscape 4.x has the correct (for me) > behavior. Why should a form that requires two inputs submit > after one? > It requires a username then it requires a password, then, and > only then, > should it submit a form. It should not submit if the active box is > username, only if the active box is password. Again, Netscape 4.x > exhibits exactly this behavior (is there a non-GUI Netscape)? lynx, > links, and others also do the right thing moving from line to line via > <Enter>. I have only recently begun using Netscape, so I can't vouch for its behavior. I frequently fill in the form in reverse order. Call me backward. I want it to submit when I hit enter, not otherwise. But I do want it to submit then. Sometimes a field is blank (I know passwords shouldn't be) until it is set to some value. I want that form to submit when I hit return even if I have not entered a password. I don't want some programmer somewhere to decide that "Nobody should be doing this, so I won't let them." It is my impression that with KDE when you hit return after entering your username it is submitting the form, failing the login and coming back with a blank password but the same userid, with the insertion point set to the password. The identical behavior as when you submit with an invalid password. > > If I'm logging into the X system, which I usually am, it works just > > fine. I wouldn't use <tab> at a command line prompt, though. OK, I > > don't do it on purpose. Sometimes I do it out of habit... > > What works? I've logged into systems using xdm since before 1989. > Hitting the <Tab> key would never have occurred to me, GUI or command > line. I've been using *nix systems (some with X, some with command line) off and on since 81, Mac since 84, Windows (cursing all the way) since 93. I've yet to find a GUI interface that *did not* move between entry boxes with a tab. The GUI standard is that the highlighted button will be activated with a <return> or <enter>. It becomes problematic if there are no highlighted buttons. But most dialog boxes have one button with a darker outline than the others. *That* is what will happen when you hit <enter>. So, if you could play with the button order or the "active" controls on the dialog box you could change this to work. Check to see if you can find a way to do that. Alternatively (and I know you won't like this), you can hit the tab key until the submit button is highlighted, then click the mouse in the userid data entry box. Then when you hit the entry it should submit, fail, and come back for a password. Unfortunately, to have it move from one input box to another on <enter>(without the submit-fail-'enter password' process) would foul up millions of people who use the GUI data entry according to the (admittedly shaky) standards -- <tab> between data entries, <enter> to activate the active button. > No, please try Netscape 4.x. I just want that behavior back. > And hitting > anything but <Enter> to go between username and password, CLI > or GUI is > counterintuitive to me (as many folks who hear me cussing 30 > or 40 times a > day that I inadvertently do it will tell you). They may well have set it up so a failed entry puts the insert point in the password box and sets the submit button as active, so that your pattern works just fine (if you don't mind failing the first password attempt). Or they may have made that window behave differently than any other window you will ever see. I suspect the former. I have the same problem with a windows box that insists it knows where I want to go today. Just ask anyone in the cube farm around me. > No. Please retry in Netscape 4.x from a login popup: username<Enter> > password<Enter>. Now how do I change Mozilla to do this? (Or > do I live > with Nutscrape 4.x forever?) I'll have to try it at home, since I had to remove 4.7.6 in order to get windows to see 7.0 as my default browser. > No, I don't think so. Keyboards are quiet (mine is anyway). The only > thing I want to hear while I'm working is Pink Floyd > (Comfortably Numb, > etc.) That is the objection I have, too. Although, they might have to finally give engineers and programmers offices instead of cube farms... Oh, Rick Braun or Gary Jess. Haven't found a bad one yet, but I'm listening to Night Walk now. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 A Jester Unemployed _______________________________________________ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
