On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 11:53:05 -0700 Condon Thomas A KPWA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Collins Richey wrote: > > On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 11:40:58 -0600 > > Andrew Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> And the alternative is? They have to fight an ever escalating > >battle> with the spammers, who, by the way, don't seem to give a shit > >about> "innocent" users either. They're fighting fire with fire, and > >> unfortunately, some people are caught in the middle. But if you're > >> blaming the Sysadmins or DNSBL's for your woes, you're blaming the > >> wrong people. If the friggin' spammers weren't being the abusive > >> assholes that they are, NONE of this would be necessary. It's like > >> saying "Don't back that fire truck over my flower bed! I'd rather > >let> the fire burn down my house!" Not at all, it's like saying that a black Saturn has been terrorizing the neighborhood, so I can't drive through the neighborhood because I happen to drive a black Saturn. I certainly will blame any Sysadmin who can't take the trouble to determine that I am a legitimate user, even though other users in my ip address range are not. I don't like spam any better than the rest of you (I delete the 10-20 a day that I receive), but there's no spam coming out of my computer, and I'll be damned if you'll convince me that I should just accept being blocked and lump it! > > My ISP recently undertook to remove some of our spam by blacklisting > certain providers. However, he sent requests to their help desks > first to see if they would do anything about it. He only blacklisted > those that refused to either answer the queries or do anything about > the problem. The result from my point of view has been that 80% of my > spam stopped by the end of the week that he was doing this. > > Perhaps if the penalty for spamming was severe enough it would reduce > the threat. Say, incarceration for 10-20 years for knowingly > participating, loss of internet access privileges for 2 years for > unknowingly participating(with that elevating to a knowing > participation if you abused the loss and/or got "used" again). Yeah, > throw them in the pen with the "real" crackers! > This would help, but you'd need to put most M$ users in the pen, because they haven't a clue, whereas you really should be imprisoning the Billygoat who makes this all possible. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. _______________________________________________ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
