The brain is slower than the typed email, insofar as I remembered that acpi was to do with power management which i do not need and went and turned off. However I think I need to upgrade the linux-utils, reiserfs and binutils as i get quite a bit about reiserfs on boot plus I got the old ELF file complaint again on modules_install. I find also that I do NOT have system sounds on USER but I am getting kde sounds, this WS 3.1 is real wierd in this respect. I should get all or non. You would think that Caldera would have at least put WS out with more uptodate files, and or put them up for d/l onsite by now, rather than leave it to the more experienced amongst us to do the dirty work. I am still mulling over re Mandrake 8.1 the newest release that sounds great, but the write ups never really say its bad or indifferent. -- ------------------------------------------------------------- To make yourself look truthful one has to lie, as most people do not want to kmow the truth; but only that which they believe. ------------------------------------------------------------- Keith Antoine aka "skippy" 18 Arkana St The Gap Queensland 4061 Australia PH 16 7 33002161 Retired Geriatric and Sometime Electronics Engineer _______________________________________________ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc ->http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users