Hi Myles:

Would you post the specs of the modem you have on your Sony Vaio,
please? Thanks.

IM

On Wed, 2001-11-21 at 00:21, Myles Green wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:29:44 +1130
> Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:18, Michael Scottaline wrote:
> > 
> > >   I recently installed RH 7.2 on a sony Vaio laptop (FX340).  I'm
> afraid I
> > > had no problems, thus none to share.  Absolutely everything worked
> right
> > > out of the box, NIC, video, audio, CD (burner and DVD, though I
> haven't
> > > tried in that mode yet).
> > 
> > Mostly same here. It was an even better install than the 7.1 and I was
> 
> > impressed enough with that: mostly due to kudzu / anaconda. A quick
> note on 
> > a CD burner gotcha is that you *must* fire up xcdroast as superman
> first 
> >  (then as a mere mortal for evermore). Redhat/ kde have an unpleasant
> habit 
> > of forcing kdesud (you keep typing your root password to do simple
> things 
> > like kppp. Ditto cd burning.) There are ways of dealing with this,
> detailed 
> > on the SxS site.
> 
> I'm not having the kdesud problem here, for whatever reason. I just ran
> xcdroast as root and setup my 'mere-mortal' user as a user of xcdroast
> and I've burned *many* copies of RH7.2 to pass out at the college - as
> 'me' not 'root' - since then.
> 
> > ---
> > I did a custom install on an old ext2 partition reformatted to ext3
> (by the 
> > installer). I strongly suspect that for the first time ever, if I had
> chosen 
> > 'workstation' I _probably_ would have got exactly what i wanted and
> saved 
> > myself a lot of finger picking. Redhat have dropped the 'powertools'
> approach 
> > and supply dual cd's. This means that the days of 'install everything'
> are 
> > probably over since there's now just too much stuff you'll never use.
> You 
> > really do need to pick thru, or at best, use the workstation/server
> type 
> > bundles. For hardened penguins, the Gentoo or Linux from Scratch
> distros 
> > where you minimalise the lot is a better option. I was hoping for a
> minimal 
> > install select on RH72 but didn't find one (unless you assume 'custom'
> means 
> > just that). RH73, or for that matter SuSe 74 should look at that
> 'feature', 
> > it's becoming a necessity. Once you install a kernel, an xfree, and a
> few 
> > admin tools, that should be good enough to boot and do the rest later.
> It 
> > took me over an hour to go thru each package I thought I wanted
> *before* 
> > continuing the install, this is frustrating because (as we know), you 
> > generally install twice due to boo-boos.
> 
> I did much the same for the first go around, except I kept it ext2 and
> did an 'expert' install then chose 'custom' and selected the groups I
> wanted. After about a week I nuked my win2k install and converted the
> drive (40GB) to ext2 with a 1GB swap partition and the rest for /home.
> This time around I nuked all the partitions from my original linux drive
> (15GB) and made a 50MB /boot partition and the rest went to /, all
> converted to ext3.
>  
> > ---
> > When partitioning (by whatever means), be *very* generous with your
> swap 
> > space. The installer screams and screams if you have less than 2 x
> ram.
> 
> =)
> 
> > Ditto my usb mouse. It auto detected correct make, buttons, and model.
> Again, 
> > an impressive hit on how far usb has come (remember kernel 2.2.x?) and
> again, 
> > not bad RH for integrating it. Still on the subject of usb, the pace
> is 
> > furious. The /etc/hotplug directory contains more than 7.1 Again, this
> 
> > is not kudos to RH but a comment that after what? 4 months? RH72 was
> sorely 
> > needed to account for the rapidly expanding devices. 7.2 detected my
> hotplug 
> > camera, 7.1 did not. You get the feeling that the dot com bubble
> blowout is 
> > over, and it's back to business as usual where we all expect a distro,
> any 
> > distro, to keep pumping the releases within a few months (just like 
> > "the good old days'). A few months ago most of us were despondent
> about the 
> > Linux desktop, it seemed to have run out of steam. The RH72 release
> serves 
> > notice on Windows that Redhat, at least, have picked up the cudgel and
> are 
> > running hard.
> 
> My USB mouse was detected as a 3 button, but there's only 2... not
> really an issue ;) As a note, my keyboard (also USB) hasn't skipped a
> beat yet under Linux, whereas win2k 'lost' it with alarming regularity.
> I definately have to second the kudos to RedHat on this release, they
> did an excellent job IMHO.
>  
> > kudzu / anaconda gets betterer each time. This release, it autodected
> my 
> > vibra128 (ensoniq). Rh7.1 had a series of common sound cards it
> couldn't 
> > detect. The  consequences of that lack is there was a lot of 
> > /usr/src/linux/Documentation/ browsing. The big problem with sound is
> a *lot* 
> > of post and pre-install statements are required in modules.conf for
> nearly 
> > any sound card. I'm happy that kudzu figures them out because I can't.
> The 
> > vibra128 is hardly a new sound card, but it's good that obviously more
>  
> > common hardware is getting sorted. (I also installed RH72 on a system
> with 
> > AWE64, sans problems, same results)
> 
> I've installed it here and at the college with the same results.
>  
> > Ditto, it detected that I had a cd-rw and correspondingly put the all 
> > important append= statement in lilo.conf. It gave the impression of a
> few i's 
> > are being dotted and t's crossed. Ie some completeness in the install
> process.
> 
> well, it got my burner but missed the dvd in the append statement, I had
> to add it but that's about all it missed.
>  
> > -----
> > One gotcha carried thru from 7.1 is #@$)(&)$# paths. The bash script
> gives an 
> > eminently sensible $home/bin directory. Ie, plunk whatever you want to
> run in 
> > ~/bin. There is no ~/bin directory. You have to create it.
> 
> yes, you do have to create it but isn't that 'normal'?
>  
> > Similarly, there's a really irritating su.  It retains your user
> environment, 
> > it doesn't replace it with superman's paths. Thus, if you want to
> lilo/ 
> > modprobe, or just about any other su thing, you have to
> > 
> > /sbin/thing
> > 
> > this is irritating. The fix is
> > 
> > su (dash)
> > 
> > it's a cure, but an irritating one.
> 
> again, I thought this was normal??
> 
> > 
> > The printers available this time are hellishly impressive and
> seriously 
> > lots but it falls over, badly, by giving you multiple choice cryptic
> drivers 
> > for each type (hp laser4 eg). Unless you've been there previously,
> there is 
> > no way of discovering what an STC500UP.DLL is (epson 400 if you ask).
> You 
> > select and pray. Printing in Linux is a continuing and unecessary pain
> in the 
> > rectum, they just made it harder. Again.
> 
> I had no problems by using the "kde control-panel" (not that one, a
> different one) which is just like it's windows counterpart in that there
> is a printer-setup selection along with network and internet and
> services etc...
>  
> > I've claimed previously that RH stole the install process directly 
> > from Caldera COL 2.2. That was *the* benchmark of how to do it
> properly. Col 
> > 2.2 pulled Linux out of the grunge ISP market and into the user's
> home. It 
> > inspired Corel and TurboLinux. RH saw the light so to speak when they 
> > followed in with KDE as the preferred desktop, It seems that RH have
> gone 
> > further by selecting Grub as their preferred boot loader. (Truthfully,
> I 
> > can't see the point behind that).
> 
> I don't like squirming bugs...
>  
> > -----
> > The readme notes are WORTHWILE. There's a lot of interesting
> information you 
> > can browse thru while waiting for the install to complete. Notably,
> the heavy 
> > emphasis on Athlon processors, and, interestingly, the deprecated
> items, Top 
> > of that tree is linuxconf!
> 
> =) =)
>  
> 
> -- 
> Myles Green Calgary AB Canada
> Alberta Linux Step by Step Mirror:
> http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mylesg/
> 
> 
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