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 Subject: Newbies Prayers Answered!!!! (LONG)
 From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 05:50:09 -0500

 http://www.redmondlinux.org
         
         I have been following the development of Redmond Linux for a while 
now, 
 never actually using it.  I decided to change around my LAN, and figured 
 now was as good a time as any to give it a try.   All I can say is wow.  
 Flawless install in under 20 minutes on a duron600@1050 abit kt7 256megs, 
 generic nic, SBPC 128, tnt2 m64.  If you're frustrated by linux, or are 
 thinking about trying it out read on.  This is simply the best option for 
 those looking for a windows alternative, or a linux playground/schoolyard. 
 
 It addresses every issue I have ever heard a new user complain about.
 
 If you are an experienced user, I highly suggest you recommend this distro 
 to potential newbies or frustrated newbies you may encounter. 
 
 I'm not at all affiliated with Redmond Linux, I just see this as a 
solution 
 to the flame wars that clog up the linux newsgroups.
 
 Anyway... on with the review. 
 The installer proceded as follows:
 
 1)  Put CD in drive, boot off CD, if you currently use windows you can 
 start from there as well booting from the CD or it will make a boot 
floppy. 
  
 2)  It auto probes for mouse, keyboard, and videocard/monitor.  These 
steps 
 consisted of hitting next until they were done.
 
 3)  Choose partition to install on.  You have the option of the whole 
disk, 
 existing partitions, free space, or expert, where you do the partitioning. 
 
 I don't know if you can partition on the fly, but even if you could I 
would 
 recommend partitioning in another app. 
 
 4)  The install starts.  There is only one possible config.  Easy for new 
 users who don't know what exists in the linux realm.  
 
 5)  Set up users, enter names and passwords.  Easy.
 
 6)  Set up networking, and printing.  DHCP, none, or manual settings.  
 Printing using cups and it looks like gimp-print.  Piece of cake as well.
 
 7)   Play solitaire until done.  Its really a step!!!
 
 8) make boot disk/restart.
 
 Like I said.  A complete install in under 20 minutes.  You can look up 
what 
 it comes with at http://www.redmondlinux.org  
 
 After playing around for a few hours I'm still very impressed.  
 
         The kde menu (your only window manager choice) is set up neatly 
and 
 logically organized.  In every menu the most often used choices are there, 
 and "advanced" options are under a submenu.   For example,the section 
 "music and movies," has mp3 player (xmms in disguise) dvd/divx player 
(xine 
 in disguise) an option to watch tv... as selections, as well as a sub-menu 
 option for "more multimedia programs,"  which contains the mixer, midi 
 mapper, and arts builder.  The menus are very simple to understand, and 
 every program works perfectly.  Full screen divx, handled much better than 
 win2k did on this box.       
 
         The desktop is a clone of windows.  "My linux computer"  opens to 
give 
 shortcuts to all your drives, which are all perfectly configured to 
 automount.  CD's auto-run, ex... DVDs automatically load with xine, every 
 file type I tried was correctly linked to its application.  The feel is 
 much more windows like than linux.  There is no home directory mentioned 
 (it does exist, just silently), and drives are presented as if they were 
 not part of a contiguous filesystem, but separate file systems.  The 
 "Network Browser" icon opens up to all the Windows workgroups you can 
 access from your box, browsing is the same as with windows.  NO MOUNTING 
 NEEDED!!!!  Unfortunately, if you want to access a smb/windows share 
 directly through other programs you must mount it, or copy the file to 
your 
 local drive.  
 
 RedmondLinux developers have made all the program choices for you.  They 
 chose mozilla as the web browser and email client, but of course you could 
 install whichever you wanted.  They did provide IMHO a great selection of 
 apps.  There is one very strong app for every task you may need.  I 
 personally would only want to add kate, kmail, knode, and maybe 
 star-office, these are personal choices; an equally powerful alternative 
to 
 each is included.  Everything is there in one form or another, including 
 all of the common linux browser pluggins.
 
 Administration is a breeze.  The Developers made front-ends for almost 
 everything you could want, and incorporated them into the KDE Control 
 Center as pluggins.  Suddenly the KDE control center is as powerful as 
 linuxconf, no joke, but much easier to use.  They did the same advanced 
 options thing from the menu here as well, which lends itself well to its 
 target audience.  I personally like the fact that the developers added a 
 link to turn sshd on or off, and called it remote access configuration.  
 The launcher hints at the possibility of remote trouble shooting/repairs.  
 This would be a godsend for newbies, as well as a sound business opp for 
 the company.
 
 Overall the distro surpasses Windows in ease of use, hands down.  That is 
a 
 pretty bold statement, but if you try it out you will probably agree.  
 However, it is definitely not a distro for power users.  I have been using 
 linux since redhat 7.0 came out, not that long but I know my way around 
 pretty well, and this distro would do everything I need it to out of the 
 box, except for satisfy my desire to tinker, and experiment.  I like 
 setting up a system just right, and Redmond Linux is more of a pre-defined 
 (?) OS.  Of course this means they track every app they distribute, and 
 know they will work right out of the box. Every single app and frontend 
 worked flawlessly.  Litterally less than 20 minutes to a 100% stable 100% 
 functional linux system.  Not even a single additional program is needed 
to 
 be totally functional. A great deal of polish went into this distro and it 
 shows.  
 
 I know several hours of testing is not long, and may not give a broad 
 picture of the distro, but the difference between Redmond Linux and other 
 distros is so profound, a few minutes is all you will need to see its 
 benefits.  I plan on putting this distro on my mother's first PC (a 
 Christmas gift).  If that is not a measure of its simplicity I don't know 
 what is.  
 
 I must caution that this is the first (1.0) release of Redmond Linux, and 
 it has had 2 (major?) bugs reported.  
 
 There is an error with KDE apps (nearly all the apps in this distro).  
They 
 potentially crash on saving.  This is fixed by downloading this file, or 
 waiting for the 1.01 release: 
 http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/redmondlinux/redmond/build42
/rl/install/RPMS/kdelibs-2.2.1-42rl.i586.rpm
 
 un-installing the included kdelibs:
 
         Press control alternate and F1 at the same time
         log in as root
         type:    CD /<directory where you saved the above file>   press 
enter  
                 (this moves you to the directory)
         type:  rpm -e kdelibs --nodeps    press enter
         type:  rpm -Uhv kdelibs-2.2.1-42rl.i586.rpm    press enter
                 (this un-installs the broken version and installs the 
fixed)
         type: exit     press enter
         Press control and alternate and F5 to switch back to the desktop
         Log out, and log back in.
 
 The second error involves a bug with CD writing, and is explained on the 
 Redmond linux news group, which can be accessed from the Redmond linux 
home 
 page.
 
 I have to add that I experienced neither of the bugs
 
 enjoy,
 
 mike

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