I took a security class from www.sans.org couple of months ago and found out
the thin layer of protection that people when they surf the net.  It is very
scary and frighting on the differnt tools that are out there.  Alot of those
tools are for script kiddies which is not rocket science to run.  There are
some nasty people out there.......

Roger

-----Original Message-----
From: Declan Moriarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: <OT> The dangers of surfing with windoze


        I got an insight into this recently from my son.
(Tip: If you really want to find out about the 'net - ask a teenager)

This guy has to deal with 'lamers' who try to use the myriad of tools for 
hacking under Dos/Win. For the unwary, they're impressive. To the networking

type, they're easily dealt with. Seeing as there was recently a discussion 
about winmodems, this may be of relevance

Netbus: (Can be packaged onto a jpg). You click on the jpg, it runs! When 
online, the hacker can open and close cdrom, swap mouse buttons, show pics 
onscreen, d/l your screen, shut windows, etc.

Assniffer: A tool for identifying the dynamic IP assigned to someone while 
online.
iptracer: ditto. 
This done, with the small netbus or back orifice (below)installed, you are
up 
for grabs by the hacker.

portlistener: does what it says.

BackOrifice: A similar invasion technique to Netbus - easier to land them 
with, but less capable.

Scripts: Myriads of scripts for IRC channels - varying effectiveness
 
These are free for download on 'lame hacker' websites, mainly places which 
boast of their hacking prowess. Only a 'lamer' uses Dos/win tools, I'm 
informed. I might add my son doesn't use these, he just has some of them and

has done the research. 
-- 
        Regards,


        Declan Moriarty




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